Does Tom Reed Fool The LCRC Again???

By Loudoun Insider

Here we go again.  It’s School Board endorsement time for the LCRC tonight.  And big spender Tom Reed, who has been making his obligatory recent stops at Republican campaign events, will once again go for the LCRC endorsement.  That’s right, the guy who consistently thinks we’re not spending enough money, who voted to spend millions on fancy whiteboards, and who has been a big backer of one over-priced stinky land deal after another, wants to be considered a “Republican” (whatever the hell that means these days, but I would think that big spending is not high on the trait list) and get on the sample ballot.  I would say, please don’t get fooled again, but I bet they probably will.

UPDATE:  Endorsement results – Reed wins against Ohneiser for At-Large, Rose against Murdock for Algonkian, Fox against Nuzzaco for Leesburg, and Ryan over Andrews for Ashburn.  Arias and Turgeon are uncontested and are endorsed for Catoctin and Blue Ridge respectively, as was Morse in Dulles.

 


Comments

  • Lloyd says:

    And what about the bozo running against debbie rose who previously sought and was denied an endorsement from the LCDC?

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    One small suggestion LI–new theme song for campaigning, please?

    As you no doubt recall, the famous attack PAC used that theme in giving us Ms. McGimsey, Ms. Burk, Ms. Buckley, Mr. Miller…

    You will at least agree that Ms. McGimsey was a textbook case of getting fooled, perhaps?

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    I wonder if she’ll show up – I hear she’s pretty far out there, Eileen whoever she is. Just what that race needs – a third candidate to help favor the incumbent.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    McG is the worst case of getting fooled, but I really don’t see the voters getting fooled by her again. More on her later.

  • Robin Crabtree says:

    Speaking of stinky land deals, there appears to be a number of self-proclaimed fiscal conservatives currently trying to ink a deal for HS8 on the NCC site that will cost far more than alternative sites and fail to allow for on time delivery in 2015 unless everything goes perfectly. I heard today there are trailers everywhere this school year. I’ll allow that this county has grown more than expected in the last decade, but that should mean we seek to complete new schools sooner.

  • Tres Conservative says:

    That’s the best scream in rock ‘n roll!

    Who – Won’t get fooled again 1971

    We’ll be fighting in the streets
    With our children at our feet
    And the morals that they worship will be gone
    And the men who spurred us on
    Sit in judgement of all wrong
    They decide and the shotgun sings the song

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again,
    No, no!

    I’ll move myself and my family aside
    If we happen to be left half alive
    I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
    For I know that the hypnotized never lie

    (Instrumental)

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    The new boss is the same as the old boss- Tom Reed gets it.

    Bobby O gave a horrible speech that spent all of his time trying to repent for leaving the LCRC instead of defining his significant differences with Reed on spending and kowtowing to Hatrick.

    I can understand people not wanting to endorse Ohneiser, but no endorsement was much better than one for big spending Hatrick sycophant Tom Reed.

  • Eric the 1/2 troll says:

    I believe Geary Higgins and Tom Reed have fairly similar voting records when it comes to the LCPS budget, LI. What makes you think the LCRC would opt for one but not the other. Please LCRC members can you now drop the fiscal conservative facade? It is getting tiresome.

  • FedUp says:

    Tom Reed gets it that implementing full-day kindergarten is a top priority amongst voters this year.

    Here’s an interesting article about a superintendent reducing his salary by $800k:

    http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/08/28/general-us-generous-superintendent_8646955.html

    Think Hatrick would go for something like that?

    The article also says the starting salary for teachers in California is $31k, or about $12k less than LCPS teachers. Yeah, we don’t pay our teachers nearly enough to be competitive.

  • BlackOut says:

    My, my, my what it means to be a Democr…no wait a Republican tonight.

    I am busting a gut over the not so surprising move by Bobby O tonight at the LCRC meeting.

    Paraphrasing, “…I want to apologize for leaving the Republican party in a fit of rage. I was so angry I couldn’t control myself and was forced to find sanctuary in the LCDC. I am really a good Republican and I beg you please please please to give me this endorsement…” All followed by more graveling…

    Well I told you so. Boy can’t wait till the Dems hear about this display.

    Bobby O has a new nickname, it’s DOA Bobby.

  • FedUp says:

    Robin – I know there are something like 10 new trailers at Briar Woods that were moved from Loudoun Valley. Freedom enrollment is at 2,100 and freshmen will have to go to Mercer for class every other day.

    It’s a pathetic situation this current Board allowed to happen by not acquiring a site for HS-7 soon enough. Sounds like HS-8 may be a repeat.

  • Bobby O’s admitted endorsement of Larry the Spirit Pot didn’t help him tonight.

  • Dear All;
    I am grateful for the LCRC endorsment tonight. I stand by my record and hope to continue to serve the students and families of Loudoun County. In the past I’ve rarely commented on blogs, because unlike my opponent who said “he attended every Committtee meeting for the past eight years”; I actually do attend every committee meeting and am out most nights until 10PM or later. When I confronted him afterward, he said he meant “committees that he served on”. He also said Dr. Hatrick gets a salary of $300-400K per year, not even close. If you want to know why I did what I did, call me or e-mail me directly at TomReedAtLarge@AOL.com. If anyone was there tonight, you may want to provide my opponent’s reason for leaving the Republican Committee and joining the Democratic Committee. Have a great night!.. Flame On!

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Just released Reed’s comment from moderation. He is a personable guy for sure, but he still only won by about 60-40% over an LCDC member at a LCRC endorsement meeting. Not exactly a landslide under the circumstances. Hopefully he will behave a bit more conservatively this term should he win again.

    In other endorsement contest news, Debbie Rose crushed Eileen Whatshername in Algonkian, John Ryan beat John Andrews in Ashburn, Bill Fox beat Mark Nuzzaco in Leesburg,and Paul Arias won the Catoctin endorsement despite Jen Bergel trying to thwart him by saying how much she’ll support Geary Higgins.

  • Another morsel to consider:

    Mr. O offered to endorse me if I ran for the district School Board seat (Catoctin at the time and now Leesburg). Now he wants to run a negative campaign and can’t get his facts straight.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Ohneiser needs the At Large seat because he wants to move from his current house in Ashburn to property he owns near Lovettsville. I can see why he would make such a strategic offer. Nevertheless, you do have a reputation as a Hatrick loyalist and I do believe that finally that label is going to be a negative one in this year’s elections.

    I met some of the other challenger candidates to the status quo candidates and I am quite impressed. I am feeling very good about the chances of a high turnover School Board that will blow things up a bit. Hatrick has simply been far too entrenched for far too long. Change is absolutely needed, and it’s on its way.

  • gstone says:

    Endorsing any incumbent for lcps is a mistake. We as fiscal conservatives should be running from the architects of our current budget mess. Mr reed is a nice enough guy and I am sure a very smart man. However ,he is in large part a responsible party and continues to support ed hatrick ,a position that can not be defended given the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Republicans have a real opportunity here to begin the process of real reform. Endorsing those who provide more of the same is not a good way to start. We should all be very disapointed.

  • Ed Myers says:

    The school board is responsible for decidng policy and how to spend money to maximize student achievement. The BOS is responsible for deciding the trade off between spending money on schools versus transportation or police and how much money to confiscate in taxes. The school budget size is a BOS issue.

    School board members are judged on how well they allocate the money given to them. A school board member would not be doing his job if he advocated for less funding in just the same way a Sheriff would not lay off deputies and give the money back to the BOS and say: “you gave me too much money; there’s not enough crime.”

    Several charter school options have been proposed to the school community as a way to provide additional classroom capacity without the long lead time required for government land acquisition and without the need for public borrowing. The key question for SB candidates: what is your opinion on these charter applications?

  • leeter says:

    Charter schools can NOT be the solution! Charter’s are only good for a few years – and many charters are not renewed beyond the initial period. If a charter is not renewed, where will all those kids go? Where will the teacher’s go? Talk about over crowding! They are an alternative, not a replacement for public schools.
    @Crabtree – you have apparently drunk the wine of the high priced lobbyists for lex 7 — it will be far more expensive in the end that NCC site – but the developer is hiding facts and giving you incorrecr data. Why do you think they are sinking hundreds of thousands of dollars into PR to unload it? If it’s not HS-8 at NCC, it’s NOT lex 7, it will be HS-6 and boundary shifts far into the future. At that point, many will move from Lansdowne and Ashburn , and your property values will continue to decrease.

  • Ed Myers says:

    Leeter, changing the administration of a charter school from private back to public would not make the children, the school building or the teachers disappear.

  • leeter says:

    Ed, if you look at the history of charter being cancelled, the buildings, boundaries, etc were all changed. Requirements for public school buildings are different than for charter school buildings. In areas where charters have not been renewed, it left a HUGE mess…having been through a charter school pull-out and having to find a new place for my twin boys, I can tell you it was hell! The school district doesn’t own the buildings, but they do employ the teachers. Charter schools can not be a replacement for public schools.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    Ehh… every time I talk with teachers about the state of the county system, I’m left shaking my head.

    The SB is just cover for Hatrick at this point.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Stone and I agree again! I still can’t believe Ohneiser came so close given all of his LCRC baggage. A guy who sits on the opposing committee and has endorsed the opponents of the LCRC got about 40% of the vote of the LCRC. Amazing.

  • Bill Fox says:

    Leeter – Charter Schools are definitely going to be an important element in dealing with the challenges Loudoun Schools face. Sure its messy IF and when the charter is revoked. That’s why we need to give as much support as we can when charters are granted to avoid those messes. But right now, the whole system is a mess. The land acquisition process is problematic at best and shady at worst. And we are not even coming close to dealing realistically with the increases in student population over the next 10-20 years. We NEED folks who are willing to try new things without the bureaucratic encumbrances that our regular public schools operate under. Its worth the risk. Plus, in regards to the problem of the school district not owning the buildings, creative contracts can always be constructed so as to provide the school district with the opportunity to acquire those sites should the charter fail. Certainly not any worse than our current methods of site acquisition. Charters are not going to be the magic remedy to solve all of our ills, but they will be an important piece of the puzzle as we go forward.

  • FedUp says:

    “He also said Dr. Hatrick gets a salary of $300-400K per year, not even close.”

    Hatrick’s total compensation is in the $300-400k range. If Bob actually did use the word salary, he probably meant overall compensation. I doubt he was trying to mislead anyone.

    Hatrick’s base salary of $232k is supplemented with lots of perks and benefits, such as a vehicle allowance and retirement annuities, to bring total compensation into the mid-300s. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/24/AR2007122402140.html for a good article on hidden pay for school superintendents.

  • BlackOut says:

    It’s always a challenge trying to figure out if Bobby O is trying to mislead someone or if he is just ignorant.

  • Bob Ohneiser says:

    Response to Tom Reed:

    1 Tom,
    You haven’t even attended all the school board meetings much less all the committee meetings as you said in writing above. Your the one being negative and frankly its pretty pathetic!

    2 Why don’t you actually outline “any” challenge or criticism you have made regarding the Superintendent over the last 8 years. I’ve been at ALL those meetings and the only thing memorable is seeing you remove the knee pads after the meeting was over. (Does suggesting he should be Secretary of Education for the United States ring a bell or sound a bit solicitious? Does that conflict with what you said last night from the platform holding the constitution claiming there is no right for a federal education agency? Which is the real Reed or does it really depend on wind)

    3 Please confirm the following facts or would you prefer to continue to hide behind labeling rhetoric:
    Didn’t you oppose my motion to not barter Arcola E.S. until we got a third party appraisal showing that a 15 acre parcel with a working school on it (on RT 50) was similar in value to what you and a few other board members thought was a good piece of land which turned out to be so challenged it could not even support a full soccer field and baseball field?
    Didn’t you oppose my motion to take the replacement of Catoctin E.S. off the CIP for about $28-30 Million as we had no study showing it was needed?
    Didn’t you oppose my motion that school board members no longer get in-county mileage reimbursed? How about telling everyone why you think it was worth the taxpayers expense for you to get on airplanes to go to feel good conferences around the country – tell them about your expenses over the last 12years.
    Didn’t you oppose my motion that the Superintendent study and make recommendations for improvement for the routes we found from a study that were drastically underutilizing buses assigned?
    Didn’t you oppose my motion to make the discipline committee 5 members instead of 3 as the parents could not appeal to the full school board after a decision of only 3 members?
    Didn’t you oppose my motion to allow students with parental transportation to transfer to underenrolled schools to improve efficiency?
    Didn’t you oppose my motion that we only extend the Superintendent’s contract by one year instead of 4 years?
    Didn’t you oppose my motiuon that LCPS be required to notify H.O.A.’s if the school board is looking at a PPEA deal on a contiguous property?
    Didn’t you oppose my motion that adult education be self funding rather than drain taxpayers?
    For the record in case it was not clear last night – I am proud to endorse Larry Roeder for Dulles Supervisor and my purpose was to try to explain (had I been given time) why you should not have been endorsed because of your votes that have drained tax dollars unnecessarily. Had the land purchases you pushed for gone through it would have been millions of wasted dollars. You do remember voting for Greenvest and Wheatland! You do remember voting to send Lenah Run to Buffalo Trail even thoguh they still had room to stay at their current elementary school. You do remember voting to take Evergreen Meadows out of the school across the street from their entrance. You do remember voting for northwest of Hillsboro children to take a bus past their elementary school to go to Mountain View even though there was a question about expanding the local neighborhood school. You do remember voting against expanding Little River E.S. so walkers could continue to walk. Your vote not only blocked walkers from walking but also reduced the ability of LRES to eventually have space for full day kindergarten. Please tell everyone what full day K will cost in capital and operating budget while you are announcing it so the full ramifications can be understood including the incremental cost over the state aid we now get for 1/2 day K.
    Finally for this time please inform everyone why you fought my motion for our closed real estate meetings to be archived since I hear you tell people you are in favor of transparency.
    Let’s discuss the facts not political rhetoric! Answer the above questions and for anyone who really wants to see what goes on during these meetings please review the webcast that is on LCPS.org especially the budget sessions and boundary sessions.
    Sincerely
    Bob

  • leeter says:

    With the vote as close as it was in R territory, Bobby O just proved he is the only hope the Dems have of beating Reed. Their new candidate may be a nice guy, but he is handpicked by John Stevens and an unknown.

  • Lloyd says:

    Bob O’s comment just released from moderation.

  • Rob Iola says:

    “I’ve been at ALL those meetings and the only thing memorable is seeing you remove the knee pads after the meeting was over”?

  • Jim Nastic says:

    Go Bobby O. Go. Inquiring minds want some answers Mr. Reed. You are a nice guy but a Hatrick puppet. While Mr. Ohneiser certainly can come off half-cocked, at least he doesn’t just go along for the ride. Again, answer the questions!

  • DC Beltway Bandit says:

    I love Bob Ohneiser a little more. Thank you for asking Mr. Reid questions about his voting record. The School Board needs a massive change and it needs more members like yourself.

    GO Bob GO!!!

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    I can see O getting 40% simply on the basis that some think any incumbent is a no-go, and O is the only other option.

    I agree with BlackOut that after some of the stuff that’s gone on in the past few years, O is DOA in the east in more than one place.

  • G.Stone says:

    I am sorry I had to miss the LCRC meeting. Had I been there I would have made a motion the LCRC not endorse ANY incumbent. We have acurately traced the source of our budget woes to LCPS. For the LCRC to endorse anyone so involved in having created the problem is counter productive to the goal of real reform. This was foolish.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Well let’s give a special award to the Letourneau campaign for having a fit about Ohneiser endorsing Larry Roeder (as if Bobby O endorsing Larry Roeder will help Roeder in any way shape or form against Matt, who needs no help in winning against Mr. Spirit Pot). But anything to help out “reformer” (as labelled by Ken Reid) Tom Reed, who also just happens to vote for most developer land deals that some political consultants have a piece of. There is a foul stench developing out between some LCRCers and incumbent School Board members, whihc seems to go back to money and power. Reform? That seems to be going by the wayside.

  • Greg says:

    I challenged the SB when they tried to ship students past two schools to go to a new ES in the middle of the woods far away from any development. I quickly found out that Mr Reed is the attack dog for the School Board.

  • Greg says:

    do remember voting to send Lenah Run to Buffalo Trail even thoguh they still had room to stay at their current elementary school.

    Yes, he remembers, bring that up and you will see the nasty side of Mr Reed. I guess Greenvest wasn’t happy when the SB couldn’t over pay for the Lenah property for the new HS and some people on the SB decided to take it out on the Lenah Run students to get even with the parents who opposed the original plan.

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