Thank You, Democrats, for Keeping the Republican Party from Complete Self-Destruction

By Lloyd the Idiot

Oh, the latest hypocrisy of those social ” conservatives.”  On the one hand, they argue that medically unnecessary vaginal probes are not unduly invasive, and, on the other,  object to mandatory vaccinations against a virus that killed 4,000 women last year.   Thank goodness reason was again able to sneak back into the General Assembly today, and the bill to repeal the HPV vaccine requirement was tabled.

Indeed,  it’s the Democrats who have repeatedly saved Republicans from completely self-destructing over social issues this session.  If it hadn’t been for them, and a few “turncoat” Republicans, we’d have medically unnecessary vaginal ultrasounds and  pregnant women (who don’t even know they’re pregnant) qualifying for the carpool lane, to name just a few.  In other words, we’d be an even bigger laughing stock.  So, on behalf of the rest of the Republican party and its candidates who suffer as a result of such antics, thank you, Virginia Democrats, for keeping the GA Republicans from completely screwing us over.


Comments

  • I especially like this line from Sen. John Edwards (D-Roanoke) as quoted by the Wa Po: “Whatever we do in this body we should do based on reason and not based on rigid ideology.”

    Alas, if only reason had a seat at the table . . .

  • liz says:

    It’d be nice if “smaller government” didn’t mean small enough to fit up a woman’s vagina.

  • BlackOut says:

    These knuckleheads are still debating the sonogram bill as of today. How about the budget!

    I also laughed when Dick Black sent out a cry about how the Dems are not approving his budget, when it was his co-patronage of the sonogram bill that hijacked over a week of attention. What a hypocrit.

    BTW, were’s that can of whoop ass there Monk? Seems those social issues Black promised you would never come up has kept us from getting a budget. I am sure you’ve called his cell to bitch him out. Let us know what he said. (Oh, I’ve heard he’s blaming it on an over-reaction by the media) what a joke.

  • BlackOut says:

    This could of all been cleared up if someone had pointed out to Dick Black that a transvaginal sonogram will not detect plastic fetuses.

  • NateDogg614 says:

    Well, if the Senate Democrats would stop playing games, we might see the budget passed.

  • NotJohnSMosby says:

    Well, if the Senate Republicans started acting like it was 2012 and not 1012, we might see the budget passed.

  • Ben Dover says:

    10 points for NotJohnSMosby, for the, “Retort of the Day.”

  • I thought LIz’ was pretty damn good, too.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Such ridiculousness coming out of Richmond from both sides. As much as I have been ragging on the GOP’s prehistoric social agenda, the Dems playing their games with the budget is juts as bad. As commenters at Bacons Rebellion often refer to it, it sure is a Clown Show down there.

  • NotJohnSMosby says:

    I think Janet Howell should have proposed a trans-anal ultrasound for guys looking for Viagra scripts. Now that would have been funny.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    I bet some of the overly pious Republicans would have had to sign up for such a thing to thoroughly investigate the procedure!

  • Here’s what drives me nuts the most. The Republicans had such a tailwind and just got greedy with crazy, divisive social issues. Had they just stuck to solid issues like jobs, the economy and LIMITED government, they would have been just fine. But noooooo. They screw it up for themselves, the Virginia Republican candidate for US Senate, and even the party nationally, by looking (rightfully) like a bunch of rightwing nutballs.

    If I sound angry, it’s because I am. I hate to see the Republican squander great opportunities, including taking back the White House.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    Are you angry enough to join a third party Lloyd?

  • Yes. Got one in mind? I’ve always thought that a fiscally conservative and socially reasonable party would do well. Unfortunately, I don’t see one – now or in the foreseeable future. With apologies to LA,the Libertarians are just too far out there for my tastes.

  • Leej says:

    yep Lloyd how about Lee J Buividas for President ;-)

    Texas will bring this country back.

    I will keep it that simple

  • Let's Be Free says:

    Any guy who wants to participate in any kind of interscholastic sport, or even go to public school, has to bend over so an animate object can be stuck up his ass. Hey insertion haters, how about protecting the guys as well?

  • LBF, don’t know where you played sports, but I think they pulled one over on you.

  • Jay Hughes says:

    I just found out that women have vaginas and men have penises.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Indeed, Lloyd, if I had to guess, LBF probably went to some super strict religious school.

  • liberal anthropologist says:

    Lloyd,

    You know I am going to ask you to be specific. Which libertarian position is too far out there. That is a common comment, but rarely backed up by specific policy positions that are too far out there.

    We have two real world examples right now. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. Go to either candidates website and cut and paste the real world position that is too far out there.

    By the way, I am not offended, I just find such thinking about libertarianism is based usually on not really having looked.

  • Leej says:

    You know since back in texas. people have real jobs here.

    Dalyn and I lost everything back in Virginia.

    Remember when I said don’t worry about us.

    I said that for a reason.

    The DC area needs to reinvent itself for jobs.

    I am not sure what it is.

    the subway is NOT got to bring jobs and put Virginia in the poor house. Those billions could help not just virginia but the whole DC area. Now what are those jobs.

    Come on you all can figure this out.

    we are happy with the jobs here in Houston and Texas.

    and not just jobs here in the oil patch.

    here is wrong with our government the few (lawyers) rule the many and they make sure they get theirs first. before the many.

    it is the old story the cat in the hen house and that cat is too many lawyers. get them out of there.

  • NoMoreSecrets says:

    “I just found out that women have vaginas and men have penises”. If men had Vagina’s, I guarantee you they would have a different view on the sanctity of the penis!

  • liz says:

    I wish I could take credit for my riposte, but I stole it from a Facebook friend.

  • Leej says:

    Lloyd and those same politicians are laughing all the way to the bank from easy street.

    Real money is earned not from easy street call all our governments. and I have more to say about this

  • NotJohnSMosby says:

    Lee, are your meds not available in Texas? Do you need one of us to Fedex you a prescription refill?

  • Talk about wasting time, taxpayer money and political capital furthering insane social agendas, look at this from the RTD (it takes the cake, in my opinion)

    “Similar handicapping was under way on the fate of House Bill 62, sponsored by Del. Mark L. Cole, R-Spotsylvania, which would strip funding for abortions for low-income women who have fetuses with ‘gross, totally incapacitating physical deformity or mental deficiency.’

    “Last year the state spent about $3,000 on 10 such abortions.”

    A total of 10 abortions for a total of $3,000 are you freakin’ kiddin me? Don’t you have anything better to do? And these were situations where there was a totally incapacitating deformity!!!! Sick.

  • BlackOut says:

    Lloyd you are so right. I just read the WP link above. The nerve of the Majority Leader Gilbert to try and blame all this on the other side! No budget, ya that is a problem. How about working on it buffoons! All the energy and attention is going to the social issues and not on what we hear the election was all about.

    I was very disappointed to get TAG Greason’s survey results. He recently asked constituents to rate their concerns. Not one item on that list was about social issues, so what do we get, a bunch of social issues. Come on TAG get your game face on and start doing what folks supported you to do.

  • liz says:

    Ultrasound bill just passed in the Senate, 21 – 19.

    Looks like VA is going to stay in the news for a while.

  • Eric the 1/2 troll says:

    Looks like it passed with Governor’s amendments, Liz. If I recall properly, this required only an external sonogram not vaginal. Isn’t that correct? Do you still find that problematic? Granted, the gov’t should stay out of it but I personally see no effective harm in this bill as written.

  • I find it problematic. Why do any ultrasound at all if (a) it was not medically necessary in the first place and (b) because it is external and at such an early gestational age, it yields no meaningful image. Therefore, there’s not even the purported value of bettering informed consent with this bill.

    Insane.

  • NateDogg614 says:

    Del. Hugo hits the nail on the head when it comes to the Budget:

    http://bearingdrift.com/2012/02/28/how-awesome-is-delegate-tim-hugo/

    Liz, (NOT looking to start a major back and forth here — and I hope you had a nice vacation, btw :) — however) I was curious to get your take on the amended bill regarding an ultrasound which just passed the State Senate. If I understand it correctly, this would be an external (i.e. non-intrusive) ultrasound (and please correct my if I’m off base on that). What is the major objection regarding this legislation?

  • Dan says:

    Eric, I know your question wasn’t directed at me, but yes there is still a problem with a bill like this. If there is a medical indication for the ultrasound then the patient’s physician will perform the ultrasound. If there is no medical indication for it then a physician should not be compelled to perform an unnecessary medical procedure for purely political reasons.

    Ideological medicine directed by politicians is a huge problem. For physicians. For patients. For citizens.

    And if you think these radicals will be content to stop here I expect you are in for a rude awakening.

  • Independent Voter says:

    The “jelly-on-the-belly” sonogram has no value in the early stages of pregnancy–when most abortions are performed. So why mandate it? Punishment for the women–who also have to pay for the procedure. What a crock of BS from a bunch of old farts in Richmond.

    What is going on with the GOP in VA? They are an embarrassment, to say the least. Return to the 21st century, for God’s sake.

  • Liz Miller says:

    External ultrasound before 8 weeks doesn’t show anything. So it’s an added expense for no medical or “informed consent” purpose.

  • BlackOut says:

    Natt Liz nailed it. Here’s the scenario,

    Dr: Ah, OK mame we can do the abortion but we’ll first need to do an ultrasound because Dick Black and Bob Marshall think you need it.

    Patient: Really, I am not sure I can afford that or that I want it. What will it show me?

    Dr: Ah, well since you’re in the first trimester we won’t see anything. So you have nothing to worry about, just lay down and let me put this jelly on your belly.

    Patient: Wait! how much does this cost me since I am not getting any medical benefit from it?

    Dr: Oh, no more than $150, unless there are complications from the jelly coagulating in your belly button.

    Patient: Well since I won’t see anything from this expensive procedure, and I don’t need it for a medical reason then I don’t want it.

    Dr: Sorry darlin that’s the law, either you pay it or you don’t get an abortion.

    Patient: Who the heck came up with this ridiculous law?

    Dr: Dick Black and Bob Marshall were the Loudoun County patrons for this so you should probably ask them about it.

    Patient: What a minute! I voted for those guys because they’d be helping me get a job, reduce my taxes, and cut the budget…

    Dr.: Mame I am not a psychiatrist or a preacher, I have no idea what those lunatics are thinking.

  • Liz Miller says:

    Except that scenario won’t happen, since there are no abortion providers on Loudoun County. There are two Crises Pregnancy Centers, tho (places that won’t refer for abortion or birth control, but won’t say so up front).

  • NateDogg614 says:

    Apprecate the feedback! :)

  • NateDogg614 says:

    (sorry, can’t spell this morning!)

  • edmundburkenator says:

    I just want to note here that those engaged in this argument need to watch out on their rhetoric.

    There may be inconsistencies on both sides when it comes to how this issue relates to the larger, national ACA.

  • Eric the 1/2 troll says:

    “If there is no medical indication for it then a physician should not be compelled to perform an unnecessary medical procedure for purely political reasons.”

    I see the ideological argument and agree with it. This should be a decision between a doctor and his/her patient and the GA needs to stay out of it. But I said I see no “effective” harm in the bill. It is indeed wrong headed but it is a far cry from the invasive procedure previously mandated.

    File it away to use as fodder when the R’s cry “foul” and try to suggest that D’s are interested in dictating healthcare via government in the future.

    They have effectively removed that argument from their quiver in the future along with their conservative credentials.

    So how IS that budget going, guys?

  • It’d be nice if “smaller government” didn’t mean small enough to fit up a woman’s vagina.

    And yet not quite small enough to fit up a man’s urethra. Perhaps that will be the next step. Or not.

  • liz says:

    I’d noticed that too, David. It is very interesting isn’t it?

  • liz says:

    And just because it’s still true:

  • [...] GA, I warned you over and over and over again to ignore the wackos driving those divisive social issues for this very reason, but nooooo [...]

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