Corporate Welfare For Billionaire Danny Boy, and Goodies For The Politicians

By Loudoun Insider

Good grief, the Loudoun BOS finalized their $2 million giveaway to obnoxious Redskins owner Dan Snyder, after the team announced they are moving their training camp from Loudoun to Richmond.  The previous marketing deal was $250k a year, this one is for half a million a year, except now Loudoun doesn’t have the training camp anymore.

These are some of the amazing things that Loudoun will get for this from the LTM article linked above.  I wonder how many of these things the people who voted for it will get to enjoy???:

Key provisions of the agreement for the county include on-air mentions/on-screen identification; press backdrop logo rotation; use of the Redskins team trademarks; video production for the county; corporate events, VIP tours and recreational field events at the Redskins Park; a presenting game entitlement, including use of the FedEx Field premium suite; Redskins summer training camp hospitality packages; club level tickets; pre-game field passes; and special event ticket pre-sale opportunities for Loudoun businesses.

So who gets the VIP tours and the use of the FedEx Field premium suite and the club level tickets and pre-game field passes???  This sounds like some I’ll scratch your back, Danny, with some taxpayer dollars, and you’ll scratch my back with free Redskins goodies.

This is as disgusting as the BS going on in Prince William County over the use of supervisor discretionary funds for personal and political goodies for supervisors there.  The same level of outrage needs to be applied here.  Unfortunately we have no one like Peter Candland on the Loudoun BOS – the crew we have voted 8-0 for this back scratching trade.


  • Ref says:

    Truly disgusting. This BOS crew has been worse than I imagined, and I knew from the start that they’d be terrible.

  • BlackOut says:

    You forgot to mention the $16M in economic benefits the county will get from this $2M investment. Not a bad deal when everything is considered.

    What is it with folks not wanting to only look at half of the equations around here?

  • David Dickinson says:

    So, Loudoun paid $2M so that we can be the subject of influence peddling. This deal sucks worse than the Redskins.

  • BlackOut says:

    Well there it is. Seems some are clouding their business judgement with a disdain for the Redskins football team. So just say you don’t like the Redskins and don’t want to have anything to do with them. That would make more sense than not seeing that putting $2M on the table and getting back $16M is a good business decision.

  • Stevens Miller says:

    FWIW, BO played a role in my changing position on this issue. People should pay attention to what he says about it.

    And I don’t even like football.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Regardless of whether or not this deal makes sense, what is rotten is all the obvious perks thrown in for the Loudoun County bigwigs, including the supervisors that voted unanimously for this. We lose training camp and pay twice as much per year, with the major difference being all sorts of VIP access for the pols. Disgusting.

  • Viper says:

    What stinks about it BlackOut is the millions given by Bob McDonnell and Scott York without having any public discussion. If its a good deal, and it might be, let the sunshine in.

  • Facts says:

    LI – Loudoun gets an expanded Redskins Park and corp HQ. that will generate more tax revenue for the County for at least the next 8 years…not to mention the 300+ employees and millionaire football players that spend money in our County…a good deal to keep them here, i woudl hate to see 300 jobs leave the county…

  • David Dickinson says:

    Schmucks. How many times have teams used the threat of leaving to coerce local governments? At $2M, each of the 100k households in Loudoun just coughed up $20 each for Snyder’s personnel wealth.

    There was a great study on tax incentives a couple of years ago that I wish I could find now. The bottom line was that 97% of the time they had no influence on where the company located (or stayed), it was just hardball negotiation on the business owners side. Kudos to their business acumen.

    A couple of million dollars for an enterprise this size is not enough to determine a business decision of this magnitude.

    Loudoun just got squeezed. The Redskins would have stayed anyway.

  • NotJohnSMosby says:

    I don’t understand, 100% of the supervisors are Republicans. How can they do wrong? The dreaded Democrats are all gone, didn’t that solve all of Loudoun’s problems?

  • BlackOut says:

    DD, if every household is giving $20 they are also getting back $160. Pretty good math there I’d say.

    And are you schmucking the BOS or the Redskins?

  • David Dickinson says:

    When will my $160 check arrive?

    The BOS. The Redskins did the squeezing. Kudos to them.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    ummm, guys? Every household ISN’T giving $20.

    Even if the hardest working plastic pig in tax history’s computer models borrowed from global warming say so.

    It’s TOT tax.

    Read the article.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Barb, will Government Reform Commission members be eligible for the VIP passes???

  • Wolverine says:

    Both Barb and BO have got it right. It’s TOT, not my own property tax dollars, going toward something that is a one-up on every other, probably very envious, jurisdiction around here. You pay to play — and beat out the other guys.

    Now, if the move of the summer training camp to Richmond is done right, maybe the coaches can begin to put together a winning team without having to do so in the middle of a circus ring.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    What do you think of all these nice VIP tickets and treatment for the local big wigs???

  • Liz says:

    As long as they use them to lure employers to our county, I’m not going to argue, but paying 4x as much as we were when they’re moving one of the tourist draws out? That seems odd

  • Elder Berry says:

    The TOT would be better used for deserving small businesses. This smacks of corporate welfare and someone needs to identify the supposed benefits to me cause I don’t see them except for certain insiders who get preferential treatment.

    BTW, I think pro football is a sick monopolistic conglomerate and college football is a drain on education.

    But that’s just my opinion.

  • Hillsboro says:

    So, in Barbara’s world, we have no standing to complain about how TOT funds are spent? I seem to remember her breathless blathering over JTHG’s TOT funding a few years ago.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    hillsboro, I raise the point because David and BlackOut were in an argument about the supposed “$20 per household” this “cost” each of us. It didn’t.

    As for JTHG and TOT, my objection at the time was actually Ms. Mcgimsey’s breathless blathering that since they were so “good”, they “didn’t need to go through the process” for approval.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    The process for this was interesting as well – it was announced that Loudoun County was providing $2 million of our tax dollars (and I don’t care where they come from or what pot they go into, they are out tax dollars) BEFORE yesterday’s vote.

    Of course it was an 8-0 vote for this corporate welfare, with lots of special goodies thrown in as pot sweeteners. Who will be using these tickets and special passes, anyway???

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    I guess they’re “ours” in the sense of the Imperial We, LI, but unless we’re residing in a hotel, motel, inn or B&B in Loudoun, the TOT funds aren’t our tax dollars in the sense that they’re coming out of our pockets.

    If we are actually transients paying temporary occupancy taxes, then how many of us should also be complaining about real property taxes?

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    You’re right Barb, let’s just blow all that TOT money on hospitality training for certified JTHG workers and VIP tickets for the supervisors. Who cares where it comes from, if it’s from outsiders then let’s just have fun with that cash!

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    Oh, yes, that’s exactly what I said. Thank you! lolol

  • DC Beltway Bandit says:

    This is not exactly how TOT funds should be used. $500K per year for the next 4 years, how does this tax giveaway square with fiscal conservative values? And exactly who will use the VIP goodies? I suspect all of the Sups, their families and other “special” County employees to include members of the GFC, Casey Group and other members of Loudoun’s GOBGN will be the recipients of these highly coveted seats. And how exactly did Gov McDonnell know how the BoS planned to vote on this issue, that he announced it a full week before the BoS officially voted on it. This BoS has more backroom- secret deals than previous boards. What a complete mess: elect 9 Republicans and County residents can expect higher taxes, millions in tax-freebies and even more infighting than previous Boards.

  • vacliff says:

    According to the article: “All the county funds will be pulled from restricted use transient occupancy taxes, which by law must be spent on tourism-related ventures.”

    If the open-to-the-public Training Camp is no longer there, how is this tourism related?
    Are people supposed to come here, drive by the entrance on Loudoun County Parkway and say ” Gee, there’s the Redskins headquarters. Too bad we can’t get in to see it”.

    How is this “tourism-related”?

  • DC Beltway Bandit says:


    Exactly my point. $2M in tax breaks is not chump change. TOT was specifically created fund marketing to increase tourism to our County. I fully expect to see “visit Loudoun Ads” on NFL spots, Display Ads in FedEx stadium, Loudoun Co or VA patches on the Redskins uniforms etc.

    I want to see an itemized breakdown of how the County has used the TOT revenue. Where is the County’s ROI on TOT. Again $2M is a significant figure.

  • BlackOut says:

    Training camp is only one element of increasing tourism. The investment includes great returns on promoting tourism here in Loudoun. All the mentioned on national TV, press backdrops, promotion materials, and the use of the Redskins name in tourist promotion mentions is what justifies the TOT. It ain’t just about tourism to come see the Park, it’s about promoting Loudoun as a place to visit.

    It’s an excellent investment. We also keep a very important business here in the county that is providng jobs, and tax revenues. They are also investing 30M into an expansion of their facility.

    I bet if this was the Detroit Lions we were talking about there would be less complaining. 🙂 Just kidding VACliff.

  • vacliff says:

    Well, of course, if it was the Lions it makes perfect sense!!

    I’m not necessarily against the county spending some money to get a commitment to keep them here. At the end of the day, it appears the tax revenue gained makes it a reasonable investment. I know other jurisdictions were pushing hard to get the Redskins to move.
    I just find it a bit of a stretch to use tourism dollars when the place is off limits to tourists.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    What about the future Redskins museum? I know that may be a stretch too, but some folks go ballistic that the Outlets are included in wayfinding with TOT money, on the grounds that they are not in keeping with what people should be touring Loudoun for. It’s still people coming in, spending money, and then going home.

  • BlackOut says:

    Barbara just to be clear. I am certain there will not be a Nebraska shrine in Ashburn. Not that it might be deserved just sayin.

    As for the Redskins museum…best idea I have heard for tourism.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    There are some amazing Huskers on the Skins. Gomes!

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