VP Tomorrow

By Too Conservative

Pick in Virginia….Bob McDonnell?


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  • Hillsboro says:

    He also told the residents of Danville, Virginia: “With you, we can win North Carolina again!”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/14/speaking-to-virginia-crowd-biden-confuses-virginia-with-north-carolina-video/

  • David Dickinson says:

    …just another day in the Biden gaffe-o-rama funhouse.

  • BlackOut says:

    David, a VP debate doesn’t decide an election. Palin got coached up and did fine and she was a gaffe machine before her debate with Biden. Heck most people were watching to see how she screwed up and arguable it turned out to be her best moment. (mostly because she didn’t say anything stupid) That debate had more potential for a disaster than this one and both characters came out unscathed. I suspect both will go into the debate looking to be vanilla.

    Also Ryan is unproven in a VP debate and he too will have to be coached up. We’ll see, it should be good TV that is for sure.

  • David Dickinson says:

    I would like to hear from one of the many liberals in the TC audience a defense of Biden’s statements.

  • NateDogg614 says:

    “He also told the residents of Danville, Virginia: “With you, we can win North Carolina again!””

    Meh. Vote early vote often. Its the Democrat way!

    (By the way, they now are giving away free “Save Medicare Vote Democrat” bumper stickers. Gee, and to think that they still get ticked off when referred to as “Democrat” instead of “Democratic.” Now they’re putting it on their own stickers!)

  • BlackOut says:

    When neither campaign is talking about substantive policy issues they fill the headlines with misstatements and attack politics. It’s the American way.

    I submit, “I built this…”, “he killed a cancer patient”, “…chains…”, “Romney wants an amendment to the constitution saying you need three years of experience”, etc etc have nothing to do with who will or will not be a good President or VP.

    This will continue for sometime, and when things get closer to the election and the rhetoric stops (or at least slows down) then we might really start hearing a debate about the different approaches.

    Until then carry on and everyone pick their favorite gaffe to pump up the confidence.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    “I would like to hear from one of the many liberals in the TC audience a defense of Biden’s statements.”

    Classical liberal here. Have you been to Danville? There were probably half NC’er’s there and half Virginian’s there. Many that work there live in NC.

    Carry on.

  • BlackOut says:

    STOP THE PRESSES!! What the f…. is Vince doing or thinking accepting cash from the Public Advocate for an ad?

  • Ben Dover says:

    David Dickinson – I encourage you to look at a map of the Old Dominion, and beckon you to consider the proximity of Danville to the Tarheel State. Then, I urge you to consider the possibility that the Danvillian’s may have more sway with their kinfolk in the hollows of Northern North Carolina, than they do with their brethren in Virginia.

    What I want to know, David Dickinson, and what no one has referenced here in this thread thus far, is what you think about the David Stockman Op-Ed on Mr. Ryan. Hmmm? What about that?

    It’s got to taste a bit like ice cold turkey gravy with giblets two days after Thanksgiving when Ron Reagan’s finance guy is reaming the GOP VP Nominee, and calling his fiscal plan, “devoid of credible math or hard policy choices.”

    I would like to hear you defend Mr. Stockman’s statements.

  • LowdowneVA says:

    BO: so you prefer that it all be free?

  • BlackOut says:

    No necessarily but certainly don’t expect someone of Vince’s talents and reputation to be harboring and supporting a certified hate merchant.

  • Hillsboro says:

    > Have you been to Danville? There were probably half NC’er’s there and half Virginian’s there. Many that work there live in NC.

    This comes across even more convincingly when you imagine it in John Lovitz’s voice.

    > STOP THE PRESSES!! What the f…. is Vince doing or thinking accepting cash from the Public Advocate for an ad?

    Hmmm…. AdChoices is just giving me ads from Romney and Dr. Oz. Maybe BO should clear his cookies after doing his “research”.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    Hillsboro, I use Bea Arthur for you.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    You know… I can’t un-see that, Hillsboro.

  • David Dickinson says:

    I wasn’t talking about Biden’s geographic ignorance. As an aside, what would you liberals have said if Palin made the same error?

    I was referrring to the first quote when Biden was addressing the mostly black crowd and stated: “Romney wants to, he said in the first 100 days, he’s gonna let the big banks again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street” Mr. Biden said of the presumptive GOP nominee at a campaign rally in Danville, Va. The vice president then lowered his voice and added, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

    Defend that.

  • BlackOut says:

    David, it’s not important. Same BS goes on with the supposed issue of Romney tieing his dog to the top of his car.

    Ah McCain by making the mistake of his life in choosing Palin effectively lost the Independent vote and a good chunk of the Republicans. Didn’t matter what the liberals thought.

  • mosborn says:

    “what would you liberals have said if Palin made the same error?”

    On the “Palin scale”, I’m not sure that would’ve moved the needle.

  • David Dickinson says:

    “David, it’s not important”

    Translation: Nothing to see here, just move along. We don’t want to bring attention to this one. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. How about those Redskins! Mayday, mayday, mayday. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

    The Vice President of the United States tells a majority black crowd that, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains” and liberals see nothing wrong with it.

    Shame on you.

  • mosborn says:

    “Shame on you.”

    Seriously David? It’s a metaphor. Maybe not a real subtle one, but certainly effective. It was prefaced by the context of the GOP wanting to let “the big banks once again write their own rules. Unchain Wall Street”.

    Not the context of slave ownership (assuming that’s where you’re going).

    You’ve got a candidate releasing ad after ad claiming that Obama wants to take the work out welfare….a claim that everyone with the ability to reason knows is a complete fabrication (not a twisting of facts, but an actual lie) and you want Democrats to feel shame because Biden was being hyperbolic?

  • mosborn says:

    Rick Santorum: “They will put you in chains called ‘Obamacare,’ and you will never break away”

    Rep. Allen West: “He does not want you to have the self-esteem of getting up and earning and having that title of American. He’d rather you be his slave.”

    Where’s your false indignation over those remarks?

  • David Dickinson says:

    It’s not a metaphor. It is fear-mongering: get out and vote Democrat or the Republicans are going to do really bad things to you because you are black.

    Who talks to a mostly black crowd and uses the phrase, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.” and then credibly says I didn’t mean anything whatsoever about slavery?

    And I guess Biden must be from Southern Delaware for the “y’all” to come through. Or maybe that was his Scranton accent?

  • David Dickinson says:

    I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

  • mosborn says:

    Weren’t you just complaining about deflection?

    Assuming that you’re not interested in the context…why is it acceptable coming from Santorum and West? Because they were addressing mostly white crowds?

  • David Dickinson says:

    I don’t know the context of either comment, however:

    1. Santorum’s comment doesn’t have a hint of race-baiting, unlike Biden’s.
    2. West’s sounds over the top. But, I don’t know who West is, who he was addressing, who he is referring to (I assume Obama), etc. I doubt he was addressing a black crowd, but I don’t know.

    Paul Ryan still rocks.

    Biden still sucks.

  • mosborn says:

    Biden: “They’re going to put y’all back in chains…”
    Santorum: “They will put you in chains…”

    I guess it’s the “ya’ll” that gets you.

    David – from what I know of you (admittedly, only through my experience with your comments on loudoun blogs) you seem to be extremely fiscally conservative. For what it’s worth, while we probably disagree on a lot of fiscal issues, there has to be a balance, right? Can’t just always be us spend-happy Dems running the ship.

    That said…didn’t Ryan vote in favor of TARP and the Auto bailout and the Bush Tax Cuts and a couple of completely unfunded wars and a prescription drug bill (Medicare Part D) that make up a majority of the deficit that you rail against Obama for?

    How do you reconcile all that spending?

  • David Dickinson says:

    No, its the race-baiting that get me.

    Romney-Ryan moves the country in the right direction. In particular, it seems they will actually address financial problems and have an honest interest in fixing the problems. Dawn breaks after a long dark fiscal night.

    I don’t hold Democrats solely accountable for the deficit and debt. I hold both parties accountable. I’m the rare republican that will critisize Reagan for his deficit spending. At the state level, I read today that Virginia has a $500M surplus. Are the Virginia Republicans going to lower the sales tax that got raised a few years back? No, they will complain the Democrats raised taxes but be happy to spend that money when they are in power. Blech.

    You can easily deflect me with economic questions.

  • Ben Dover says:

    Question: “Who talks to a mostly black crowd and uses the phrase, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.” and then credibly says I didn’t mean anything whatsoever about slavery?”

    Answer: Me. I’ve personally done this on at least 3 occasions, and can honestly say that the possibility of someone subliminally conjuring up images of slavery never once entered my mind. On a serious note, you refer to Biden as being a village idiot in one moment, and then the next you credit him with being smart enough to install a racially tinged metaphor into an ad hoc campaign speech. I think you are giving him way too much credit.

    Loudoun County Political Trivia Question. Who spoke to a mostly Muslim crowd and used the phrase, “I come here in peace, do you come here in peace?”

  • mosborn says:

    “Romney-Ryan moves the country in the right direction. In particular, it seems they will actually address financial problems and have an honest interest in fixing the problems.”

    Has Ryan been recently financially born again? He voted in favor of increasing the deficit (aka “the problem”) over and over. What’s changed?

    You’re not concerned that most economists (including Repubs) can’t find much reality in his grand plan? And that it seems impossible that he can achieve both his deficit targets AND his tax breaks for the wealthy without raising taxes on the middle class? Isn’t that you?

  • David Dickinson says:

    I think Romney is a financial fix it man and I think Ryan is his perfect VP in this regards. Whether at the Olympics or work at Bain, he has showed he can balance a checkbook and will do the hard things (i.e. lay people off) that others won’t do.

    I’m not sure of the tactics or strategy they will employ, but I do believe the direction is the right one. It is my belief that Romney will make decisions that will make both parties unhappy in order to actually fix problems that exist financially.

    I would like to discuss further, but I’m headed on vacation. Radio silence for a couple of weeks.

  • Leej says:

    Well Ryan voted for almost all of Obama’s stimulus and many of his other programs.
    And he was very evasive in the fox interview last night about his and Romney’s REAL plan to bring us back to prosperity.

    Picking Ryan or anyone from congress looks like a big mistake. Congress has a lower approval rating then Obama ;-)

    I have to laugh picking Ryan because he will shore the base what a joke like the tea party is. Get rid of the tea party they are hurting Republicans not helping.

    Think about it, the base of either party is going to vote the party line no matter who is running. Who else could they vote for but their party line. What a joke playing to the base.

    Right now I don’t see Romney & Ryan saving america just a lot of BS. I am a independent and right now I am going to write in LI for president. ;-)

  • Leej says:

    And baby Bush was a horrible president, so what does he do today he hides from the world and national scene. Sorry I still believe some of his decision to invade Iraq was both to avenge his dad.

    And most likely Romney did not want him at the convention because baby Bush is bad news and poison in politics and to the public.

  • Ashburner says:

    USATODAY

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-15/paul-ryan-finances-reports/57078160/1

    While being vetted by Mitt Romney’s campaign, GOP vice presidential hopeful Rep. Paul Ryan amended two years of his financial disclosure statements to add an income-producing trust worth between $1 million and $5 million that he had previously neglected to report.

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