$4.96???

By Loudoun Insider

Following right in the footsteps of MWAA raising the tolls on the Dulles Toll Road, the owners of the Greedway have announced plans to take their highway robbery toll price to $4.96.  Wow, at least it isn’t five dollars!!!


Comments

  • John Marsh says:

    Why shouldn’t good Republicans applaud this, as a market price for a private industry to pay costs of service, as opposed to the subsidized roads taxpayers pay for? And Democrats can applaud the regulations that keep costs under control, as utilities and airlines used to be regulated.

  • Ellie Lockwood says:

    It would have been nice to punish Gov. Kaine, who did an end run around the Legislature and used an Executive Order to GIVE the toll road or MWAA, by denying him a 6 yr. free ride at the U.S. Senate!

  • Pragmatist says:

    The Greenway is the emblem of what inadequate road funding looks like. It is a road that was clearly needed, but not funded via tax dollars, so someone else stepped in. Now everyone wants to whine. The Beltway “hot lanes” are the same thing. Because taxes are evil and must be cut and cut and cut…we now get to pay and pay and pay…awesome plan!

  • Smith says:

    I heard the local Papa Johns are going to put this cost back on the consumers because their drivers cannot support this tax increase.

    Also, some local companies have laid off their workforce because of the pending toll increase, even though it has not gone into affect.

    Sarah Palin even believes that this toll increase is a sign that our democracy is dying. The Loudoun Board of Supervisor is allegedly setting up toll panels to raise tolls on anyone they like.

    Where is Sean F-ing Williams when you need him Loudoun Insider?

  • Elder Berry says:

    Free market at work.

    Go order a pizza, call Chick-fil-A or that cheapskate guy who runs the coal company. Whine at them.

  • Linda B says:

    As John Marsh notes, I’ve always thought toll roads make sense. The people who use them pay for them. What doesn’t make sense is the Dulles Toll Road increase, which will be used to pay for something that by definition the folks paying it aren’t using.

  • Eric the half a troll says:

    I don’t like monopolies. They are unAmerican. The Greenway certainly fits that bill. At least do away with a state enforced speed limit if you are going to charge me to use it.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    Thirty-five cents per mile. Just in case anyone was wondering…

  • Liz says:

    Linda, they may not use it, but they will benefit from it, as it will take cars off the road.

  • David Dickinson says:

    Dulles Toll Road increases.
    HOT lanes go into effect
    Greenway goes up.

    Forget the Tea Party. We need a local TOLL Party!

  • David Dickinson says:

    Adding insult to injury, I just looked up the HOT (now “Express) lane rates. $17.50 is the one way cost of driving the full 14 miles during peak times.

    $4.96 x 2 = $9.92
    $1.75 x 2 = $3.50
    $17.50 x 2 = $35.00

    Total daily tolls for some commuters (worst case scenario) = $48.42

    Per week = $48.42 x 5 = $242.10
    Per year (assuming 50 weeks) = $242.10 x 50 = $12,105
    Monthly average $12,105/12 = $1,008.75

  • vacliff says:

    Eric-
    They are unAmerican. They’re Australian!

  • FedUp says:

    We should be thankful there are restrictions on what the greedway owners can charge. How much would they charge if they could charge as much as they want? $9.96? They could probably get away with it and still rake in more revenue, even if they did lose 40% of their users. That is what would be best for them, but not the public. It would force more traffic on parallel toll-free routes, causing more traffic jams, more wear and tear on VDOT maintained roads and even more gas consumption.

    “The Greenway is the emblem of what inadequate road funding looks like.”

    It is the emblem of poor legislation (The Highway Coporations Act of 1988) and poor decisions (Loudoun’s support to build the road quickly when VDOT had proposed building a toll road that would have resulted in much lower tolls, but would have taken a few more years to build). Route 28 (no tolls) and the Dulles Toll Road (85 cent tolls for 21 years until it became the cash cow for the Silver Line) are good examples of the right way to build roads with private funding.

    The problem with road funding is that the main source, the gasoline tax, has not kept up with inflation or increasing fuel economy. The tax is now something like 35 cents a gallon and has not been raised in over 20 years. If it was 70 cents a gallon now, we may not need toll roads. Collecting tolls is an inefficient method of funding because the overhead is so high.

    “…the subsidized roads taxpayers pay for”

    Road funding is not subsidized. It is from dedicated sources like the gasoline tax, motor vehicle sale, use and license taxes. About 10% comes from a sales tax, but that is justified because all the products for sale get to market via roads; therefore consumers, even if they walk to stores, need to pay for that road use. These are all forms of user fees.

  • FedUp says:

    “What doesn’t make sense is the Dulles Toll Road increase, which will be used to pay for something that by definition the folks paying it aren’t using.”

    Linda, on top of that, Silver Line riders will not be paying for the construction costs that toll road users will be paying for over the next 45 years. All they will pay is the metro fare, which goes towards operational costs. There should be a surcharge at every Silver Line station equal to the toll rate!

    As Liz points out, cars will be taken off the toll road. Some will start using the metro and others will avoid the high tolls and take alternate routes. That will leave a smaller pool of users to pay the debt service and require even higher tolls.

    This is the most unfair funding formula that could have possibly been created.

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