Only In Loudoun County …

By Loudoun Insider

With a supposedly “fiscally conservative” 9-0 Republican Board of Supervisors does a dispute between two private developers over an interchange promised to be built as part of a rezoning request end up with the county throwing thousands of dollars into the pot.


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  • BlackOut says:

    Amazing it is LI. With the county having so much leverage on the “new stadium” you’d think we could have easily gotten the cash out of them.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    From the linked article: “While the county will be paying for the majority of the additional design, the money is not coming out of the taxpayers’ pocket. Laycock was able to find money from proffers already made by developers in the area that can be shifted to the project.”

    Remember when the 03 BoS did a proffer audit and found hundreds of thousands of proffer dollars locked up and untriggered?

    While I can definitely see the point on using the leverage of the stadium to expedite progress on the roads, outrage over moving the engineering along with proffer money already dedicated to transportation in the area is akin to the folks who get apoplectic out of the money coming “out of their pocket” when TOT tax is used for…tourism related expense.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    One wonders what isn’t going to be done with this proffered money that was supposed to be done.

    “Found money”, while always a happy accident, usually is just money from Peter for Paul’s uses.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    eb, proffer money is dedicated funding, just like TOT.

    Often there are proffers that stipulate a specific improvement, or “cash in lieu of”, with specified uses for the cash, which still must be transportation, and often area-specific (much like wetland mitigation, with the step down from on-site, through local area, to general).

    If more than one entity shares the proffered cost of a specific item, often smaller developments will contribute toward, but not be responsible for construction.

    Sometimes a proffer is structured whereby someone has a responsibility to build something at a certain impact level or number of units, but another sharing responsibility for the improvement has the right to build it first if they need it, including the other entity’s obligation (which triggers their cash in lieu of to pay for the constructed portion provided by the other beyond their own obligation).

    Money can accumulate at the county for improvements, and to me this seems like a beneficial way to use some of them. Things change beyond the time agreements are negotiated, but the parties are still responsible and the agreements transfer with the property.

    Better than collecting the money ostensibly for trans, and then letting it pile up while we stagnate with no movement forthcoming.

  • David Dickinson says:

    To EB’s point, “One wonders what isn’t going to be done with this proffered money that was supposed to be done.”

    Yes, it could sit around and be wasted and it is azero sum game.

    But, why bother helping out BF Saul at all? If they don’t like the intersection, boo hoo for them. If it is so important, then THEY can pay for the change and Loudoun can keep the proffer “in the bank” for something else.

  • BlackOut says:

    I am glad we found proffered money to get this log jam released.

    It’s a valid question though to think what this monetary asset would have been used for if not deployed in this instance.

    Seems to me the stadium leverage was prime to use as a negotiating tactic. Maybe it was tried and there were other issues. And as Williams said no body is really happy.

    I am more curious about original stipulations of the proffer for One Loudoun. Why is there now a loop hole being exploited to get out of full obligation for the interchange?

  • Elder Berry says:

    The whole proffer system is broken. Stupidest way to pay for infrastructure I ever heard of.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    it’s “voluntary” in a by right state, elderberry, and given that the people who shouted for years for impact fees laid rubber backing up when the state actually considered them, it’s the best we’ve got at the moment.

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