Florida Votes

By Loudoun Insider

McCain or Romney, that is the question. Giuliani has sunk into the depths after betting the deck on winning Florida. Huckabee is vying with Giuliani for third place pretty far behind the two pack leaders. We’ll see what happens. All signs point to a McCain-Romney battle till the end.

On the Dem side, Florida isn’t supposed to matter due to its defiance of the DNC and the subsequent stripping of delegates, but hey, when did rules ever stop the increasingly callow Clintons? As expected Hillary is talking up how the poor people of Michigan and Florida have been stripped of delegates by the meanies at the DNC. Only she and Bill really care about them (cue Bill’s trembling lip and Hillary’s cracking voice). After the candidates agreed to not campaign in these two states, Hillary does so in as low key a fashion as a Clinton can, than whines about how the delegates should count after all. Between this and Bill’s blatant race card politics, it’s no wonder she’s sinking in the polls.

Aftermath Update: McCain will be the Republican nominee – the writing is all over the wall. A solid five point margin for McCain, Giuliani to drop out and endorse McCain.Â

Hillary of course uses her zero delegate “victory” to proclaim how the delegates need to count after she signed the DNC pledge that they wouldn’t. How …. Clintonesque!Â


  • I Heart Howard Beale says:

    Most of the time I consider myself a D, but the Clinton’s will not get my vote in November. If The Rs nominate McCain, I’ll switch over. If they nominate Romney or Mr. Theocracy Mike Huckabee, I’ll write in Loudoun Insider.

    Rudy also could have had my vote. But what a moronic strategy. You can’t skip Iowa, Wyoming, NH, Nevada and South Carolina and expect to be considered viable. I can see why the evangelicals in Iowa and S.C. scared Rudy away, but why couldn’t he compete in Nevada or NH?

  • Sanity says:

    Even I have soured on the Clintons. I think she’s as good as done, but we can’t “stick a for in her” for sure until the 6th.

    However, due to SCOTUS concerns, I will be voting for the Democrat whoever he or she is. I think, though, at this point, Obama is more electable. (What a change a month makes.)

    Looks like I’ll have to root for Romney on the GOP side as his crossover votes will certainly be fewer than McCain’s. (As evidence, I present comment #1.) On the other hand, how many “true conservatives” will sit home if it’s McCain v. Obama? No one to vote for, no one to vote against.

  • Loudoun Moderate says:

    IHHB and others: No write-ins are allowed in this primary, I repeat–NO WRITE INS allowed.

  • Ben Dover says:

    After watching the SOU address last night, it was interesting to watch Romney, Clinton and Obama interviewed. With all due respect to Mrs. Clinton, her head looks like that of a puppet – her cheeks are too “chip-munky” (is that a word?) for my liking, and when I listen to her talk all I hear is the soft yet subtle drone of someone saying “Bullshit” over and over and over and over again.

  • 10 feet tall and Bulletproof says:

    Everytime I have to endure an interview or a soundbite that features her, I have to enlist the willful suspension of belief.

  • Pat Buchanan does not sound like a McCain fan… “McCain’s platform is less jobs and more wars.”


  • I saw that same comment, ed, but I think he was (sort of) joking. I think.

    McCain will be the nominee.

  • Loudoun lady says:

    Who will be McCain’s running mate if he does get the nomination?

  • I put the McCain/Huckabee ticket together after Iowa. I’m staying with that prediction.

  • Crist is my second guess…

  • Loudoun lady says:

    If McCain is smart he will choose Romney. He is not that smart though.

    What does Huckabee bring to the ticket? The conservatives don’t like him.

    Has anyone seen the following:


    This presidential election is a “Hold your nose” election, but after the 2008 election it is time for rebuilding the Republican Party. The above candidates may be a good start. We need more people to stand up and be willing to run and be right on the issues.

  • Former LCRC Member says:

    No write-ins? How does one cast a protest ballot given the woeful choices of McCain, Romney, and Huckabee?

  • The reason I think Huckabee is his appeal to fundies. I see the party trying to piece together this odd coalition of hawks, independents, and fundies. It might just work if we suffer from some kind of attack or there is an event in hte world that scares American voters enough.

    The establishment will try to get their guy in as VP because some see a McCain term as a four-year event.

    McCain loathes Romney (not that a ticket has to like each other… see Eisenhower/Nixon), but it’s rare that the last two standing in the primaries team it up for the general.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    Edmund – It is the classic fight between the establishment Republicans and the conservatives, reminiscent of the 1976 convention minus RR. I know how rare it is for the top 2 contenders to team up – it is the smart thing to do though.

    Did you see the debate last night? McCain reminded me of Gore in 2000, rolling his eyes and harrumphing while Romney was talking. If he is stacked up againt Obama he will look like NIxon did againt Kennedy. McCain vs Hillary looks like 2 hags.

  • I think you might be selling McCain a little short if he goes up against Obama but we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. I’m not sure what McCain and Clinton would argue about.

    Romney clearly won the debate… but was anyone listening besides you and me?

  • 10 feet tall and Bulletproof says:

    Very interesting.


  • 10, that story means the former president was peddling his influence with dictators and getting money in exchange.

    It’s deplorable.

    But before you conclude it is the sole domain of Mr. Clinton, check out the Carlyle Group’s activities and Bush 41.

  • 10 feet tall and Bulletproof says:

    Bush isn’t running for the head honcho position. Neither is his wife.

  • Well, eight years ago, his son was running. That was my point.

    Clinton was/is playing loose with his role as former president — and it may get him and his wife in some hot water — but he’s not a trail-blazer on that dubious path.

  • Loudoun lady says:

    Edmund – Romney did win the debate. McCain sounded like a brat as in “Who do you think you are questioning me, John McCain, war hero, Senator and bad ass?”

    Sorry to say this again, but McCain looks like an old, angry man – because he is! Compare how RR looked at 71 to how McCain looks. I don’t base my presidential vote on looks but some silly people do.

    McCain vs Clinton would be a mutual admiration society.

  • 10 feet tall and Bulletproof says:

    Look, I was recently appalled that a previously “sane and rational” Ann Coulter endorsed Clinton over McCain. That, on it’s face, is so retarded, it’s laughable. It’s like a spoiled five year old who doesn’t get their way, and will now turn to a vindictive stance, even when it totally undermines their causes.
    THIS WILL BLOW UP…in their faces.
    There are , at best, two SCOTUS positions that will be filled, and I will trust Mr. McCain’s choices over those of Clinton or Obama anyday.
    I really think that the far right has overlooked the fact that in the past 30 years, the middle ground elects Presidents. Not the far Left, not the far Right…but the middle. How you split them up assures a Presidential win. Clinton came in 1992 far more centered (in his approach) than he is today. He even borrowed a few ideas from the Republicans– 2 years of benefits before you’d better find work–ect.
    McCain voted to end special interest control of purse strings. Why is that bad? Here in Loudoun , we just went thru this. Why does a multi-thousand dollar contribution trump the local voters?
    He’s already said that the amnesty was a bad idea. If he reverses on that again, he’s screwed.
    And he voted against the tax cuts, but now is vigorously defending them. The Navy calls this “Lessons Learned”. It encompasses a learning cycle and adaptation on initiatives as we observe what does work from what doesn’t.
    Tax cuts do work. There is so much money in the economy that is being reinvested into our collective good. If you start penalizing those who are reinvesting it for our good with higher taxes and capital gains taxes.. they’ll fold up the cash outlay rather than take the hit, leave the money in their accounts to collect interest and let the rest of us sort it out for ourselves.

  • Cicero says:

    Romney “won” the debate – he’s creepy-crawly smooth — but lost the war. McCain was exhausted from Florida and a 10 hour disaster flight to California, and he did look grumpy and small-minded. But he’s clearly the strongest Republican candidate, the foul-brained Coulter notwithstanding. His position on immigration is pragmatic and humane, he understands the reality of global warming and (if that’s doubted) the economic and other environmental health benefits of addressing it. He has at least wrestled with the problem of campaign money in elections and with his initial opposition to the tax cuts for the 1% most wealthy, he understands, or a few years ago understood, that America undermines its democracy with its increasing embrace of plutocracy (and the political dynasties that are evidently going with it).

    But to gain the Republican base McCain has weakened his earlier principles. Romney et al. gleefully snooker the American middle class into thinking the tax cut for the very rich actually hurts them! Tax cuts can work, but some can hurt. They stimulate best for the middle and lower income class. And Romney panders to the base with his mendacity about “amnesty,” and it’s taken its toll. Sadly, McCain isn’t the energetic and straight talker of yore, and he’ll deservedly have a tough time against Obama, even on the war – which ain’t over.

    Granted he’s a better bet than Hillary. (Note that it was the Times – despite its endorsement of Hillary — that broke with a long front-page story Bill Clinton’s shameless trip to Kazakhstan with his mining friend, his catering to its appalling dictator and receiving $32 million for his library from his comrade whom he helped get the sought-after uranium mining concession.) We don’t need him hanging around the WH any more than we need the Hillary who wrongly accused Obama of working for a slum landlord in Chicago.

    No, instead, we can be happy with a candidate with a more balanced and open-minded brain than any other, and who’s had more experience in elective office than she, and far more than did Lincoln, with whom he compares favorably.

  • 10, if you think Ann Coulter is anything other than performance art (really bad performance art), you need to do some serious rethinking.

    Cicero, I’m with you on Romney winning the battle and losing the war. But that battle was a clear victory for him… except for his creepy Montgomery Burns laugh after McCain mentioned that he was responsible for laying people off in business deals.

    I’m rooting for McCain v Obama, but I don’t know if Obama can pull out Super Tuesday. He may get away without delegate damage, but his momentum would be dampened.

    I kind of wish that story about Bill would gain a little traction… is it wrong to feel that way?

  • 10 feet tall and Bulletproof says:


    “Bill Clinton said he talked with many of the 60,000-member Culinary Union’s rank-and-file who intend to ignore the endorsement and vote for his wife.

    “In this case the establishment organization is with him [Obama] and the INSURGENTS are with her[Hillary],” Clinton said in his speech. He then asked for a show of hands from about 50 precinct captains in the audience and challenged them to stand up to the union’s leadership. “

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