I’ve always cringed when seeing those photos at Not Larry Sabato – but just had to borrow them for this post.  Sorry, NLS, but I am fully crediting you!  Just another reason for him not to be RPV Chairman – publicly available photos of him apparently quite wasted.  Dems seem to be enjoying the continuing RPV infighting, but I know they are all very sad that they soon will not have Jeff Frederick to kick around anymore.  Losing Frederick is truly addition through subtraction for RPV, and bad news for Dems.

Well, anyone who had any hope that Jeff Frederick would do the right thing and actually think of the good of the party before his own hide have been proven wrong.  He is wailing away trying to justify his abominable tenure and vowing to stay until the bitter end.  Doug Mataconis at Below the Beltway has a great synopsis of the latest developments and news here.  I’ve just obtained some of Frederick’s emails to State Central Committee members whining about the long overdue effort to kick his sorry butt to the curb.  See them and weep below the fold.  He truly is clueless and narcissistic.  Get him out.  Now.

From: Jeffrey M. Frederick [mailto:jfrederick@jmf.us]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:19 PM
To: Allison Coccia
Subject: FW: Next steps
State Central Members:
 
Late last evening, you should have received an e-mail from Mike Thomas and several other members of the Executive Committee regarding the April 4 meeting of the State Central Committee.  Misrepresentations made in that e-mail compel me to respond.
 
The e-mail references several attempts to meet with me to discuss this matter.  While the contention is technically accurate when referencing the desire of Mike Wade, Mike Thomas, and Jack Wilson to meet with me to discuss and present their charges and the Call, they have made it abundantly clear that the only “resolution” they would accept is my resignation.
 
I have repeatedly expressed my desire to resolve their concerns, to discuss openly and frankly any issues they – or any other member of the State Central or Executive Committees – may have with the party or my leadership.  But when the sole “resolution” presented is my resignation as Chairman, their claims of desiring anything approximating a “discussion” ring hollow.
 
I have repeatedly stated my intention to serve as Chairman through the end of my term in May 2012.  My resignation would effectively overturn the verdict of the thousands of Party loyalists, activists, and volunteers who took the time to attend our 2008 state convention and elect me Party Chairman.  As Chairman, I have a responsibility to uphold the will of our Party, as expressed through our processes of election and nomination.  I would no more participate in an unrelenting effort to nullify the 2008 Convention than I would one that sought to overturn the result of the convention we are currently planning for this May.
 
Since I have repeatedly rejected the only resolution they have offered, a meeting to review a document that calls for a vote to remove me would be futile.  The Call and its allegations are specific and clear.  Meeting with those who have spearheaded the effort to craft it to review their work is unnecessary.  They have expressed their intention to remove me and I have reaffirmed my intention to complete the term to which I was elected.
 
Just last week, I sent an e-mail (see below: Subject: Next steps) to members of the Executive Committee in an effort to resolve this situation.  In it, I called for a meeting to seek out a resolution to this situation.  Disappointingly, only one member of the Executive Committee responded to my call for such a meeting.
 
Even in rejecting what would be the most recent of several meetings where the only solution offered by those seeking redress would be my resignation, I made clear my willingness to meet with them to discuss their concerns about the ongoing operations at RPV and the progress we’re continuing to make to advance our candidates and our shared conservative principles (see below: Subject: RE: Meeting).
 
In concluding his e-mail, Mike states, “We regret that this step is necessary and have done everything we could to avoid it.”  This statement is very disingenuous.  “Everything” implies that a variety of options to resolve this dispute have been offered.  In fact, only one option has ever been presented to me – repeatedly and consistently.
 
The e-mail also implies that I am in some way responsible for Mike forwarding the Call to you, distributing the charges on a more widespread basis.  He specifically references a “promise” made to me that the Call would not be distributed if I had just agreed to meet to discuss its contents.  In reality, the “promise” to me Mike references in his e-mail was only valid had I agreed to resign.  Holding another meeting where they called for my resignation and I declined to do so would not have prevented the Call’s distribution.  Indeed, the very issuance of the Call mandated its distribution to members of State Central, and Mike Thomas, Mike Wade and Jack are very well aware of this fact.
 
Mike’s e-mail further implied that I informed the press of the effort to oust me.  Any claim to this effect is demonstrably false and patently absurd.
 
Neither I nor any member of RPV staff initiated contact with the media on this matter.  Instead, less than an hour after the Call was delivered to the Obenshain Center Wednesday afternoon, I, our Executive Director, and our Communications Director received specific inquiries about it from a reporter with the Virginian-Pilot’s capitol bureau.  None of us responded to these inquiries in any way.  Curiously, the reporter had several details about the Call, the number of signatures affixed to it, and very specific items and anecdotes regarding the effort to gather those signatures. 
 
Before noon on Thursday, we were receiving similar inquiries from the Washington Post, the Richmond Times-Dispatch, the Associated Press, the Roanoke Times, the Washington Times, and WWBT-TV.  All had details similar to those we had heard the night before from the Virginian-Pilot reporter, and most had information that was even more specific.  But now, each had obtained sufficient confirmation from sources described as “party leaders” and expressed their intention to publish a story.  Under these circumstances, it was felt that the best way to respond was to issue a statement regarding the controversy.  However, that statement was released only to those publications that had made inquiries.  Further limiting its distribution, I instructed that the statement be posted only to the portion of our website exclusively accessible to members of the State Central Committee.
 
The Call you received electronically in the form of an attachment to the e-mail from Mike last evening has not been distributed by RPV.  If RPV had distributed this particular call, it would have done so exclusively via regular postal service mail.  While I am responding to the inaccuracies depicted in Mike’s e-mail in this e-mail, you will not be receiving my response to the charges in the Call in this manner.  In those circumstances where time allows, communications from me regarding this matter will arrive in written form via regular mail.  Information will be sent by electronic means only when misrepresentations are made to members of State Central that require a more immediate response.  Where appropriate, I will make documents available on the portion of the website that can be accessed exclusively by members of State Central.
 
Despite this latest controversy, we have a lot of good things going on at RPV.  Preparations for the convention are moving briskly, and I’m confident that the experience for our delegates at this year’s event will be the best in anyone’s memory.  You undoubtedly saw yesterday’s release concerning Dave Rensin’s willingness to sign on as Finance Chairman.  His abilities as a fundraiser are extraordinary and we are very fortunate to have him join our team.  As you will learn from our latest “Weekly Update,” we’ve got a lot of good news to tell.  Further, Allison is about to release her latest “Executive Director’s Report,” which will demonstrate the progress being made in transforming our party into an effective, modern political force.
 
I am sure I will be talking with many of you in the days ahead.  I look forward to those conversations, and to our continued progress at RPV.  If you wish to contact me directly before then, as always, I welcome it.
 
-JMF.

 

 
From: Jeff Frederick [mailto:jmf@rpv.org]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:18 AM
To: [many email addresses redacted]
Cc: [many email addresses redacted], Allison Coccia
Subject: Next steps
I am canceling our first Monday call scheduled for this Monday.  If any of you wish to have a discussion with me, give me a call.  I welcome it.
 
The fissures within this group have little to do with this debate about office space, just as they had little to do with paying Cleta Mitchell a $1k a month for her services.  These are minor matters that some of you have chosen to make major distractions due to your desire to find fault with me and add to your list of greviances.
 
The way I see it, there are three possible directions things will go over the next 30, 60, or 90 days:
 
1.  Success in the efforts of some of you to remove me (which will be a very public and damaging fight).
2.  Failure in the efforts of some of you to remove me (collateral damage significant, including our ability to work together).
3.  We fix the issues and move on.
 
The most difficult one is option 3, because it will require a sincere desire among all parties to work things out and come together as a team ready to hit the field united to win — including me.  Yet, it will be a waste of time for everyone involved if this is not the case.
 
If a majority of you respond to this email with a good-faith desire to take up option 3, I will put things in motion for a day-long, closed-door sesson, moderated by an objective third party to facilitate the discussion, to get this set up.
 
 
From: Jeff Frederick [mailto:jfrederick@va52.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:37 PM
To: [redacted]

Cc: [redacted]
Subject: RE: Meeting
Mike –
 
I am in receipt of the Call for a meeting of the State Central Committee for the purpose of removing me as Chairman, which you delivered to the Obenshain Center yesterday and to my home today.
 
As more than 70% of those who affixed their name to the Call publicly supported my competitor in the Chairman’s race, this latest effort to overturn the clear, definitive, and uncontested result of the May 2008 Virginia Republican Convention does not come as a complete surprise.
 
I’m proud to continue my work on behalf of the thousands of dedicated rank-and-file Republican activists, who, like me, remain committed to electing and reelecting our Republican nominees this fall and to advancing our shared conservative principles.  The confidence they expressed in me just nine months ago was humbling, and I have every intention of completing the assignment they entrusted to me.
 
I will gladly meet with you to discuss the current operations at RPV and the progress we’re continuing to make in the effort to strengthen our party and reinforce our steadfast conservative principles.  However, I do not believe that meeting to discuss my status as Chairman, or my firm and total commitment to completing the full term of office to which I was elected just nine months ago, would be productive for either of us.
 
As a consequence, if you wish to meet to discuss items other than my unwavering resolve to fulfill my commitment to the duly elected delegates who selected me as Chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, or items entirely unrelated to the documents you delivered yesterday, please contact my Prince William office to schedule an appointment.
 
In the event we do not have an opportunity to see each other before April 4, I look forward to seeing you at the State Central meeting.  
 
Respectfully –
 
-JMF.

 
look forward to seeing you at the State Central meeting.  
 
Respectfully –
 
-JMF.

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52 Comments



  1. After reading these, all I can think of is:

    WHAT A DOUCHEBAG!


  2. RichmondDem


    Please don’t got Jeff! Stick around, please?

    DEMOCRATS FOR FREDERICK!


  3. Anonymous


    Reminds me of Blago. “I WELCOME IT”. Like they enjoy going down fighting.

    “If he hasn’t brains, he’s got SOME balls”.


  4. Anonymous


    PS – What’s with the 80 million email accounts this guy owns?


  5. Anonymous


    PPS – What. The. Fudge.

    http://www.jmf.us/


  6. jotb


    did anyone else get this message when they went to his business’s web site….

    This web site at gxs.net has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.




  7. Given the tactics Frederick employed to get elected in the first place, it doesn’t surprise me in the least that he intends to tear the party apart on his way out the door.

    If only his fundraising emails and other missives that we have pointed to on this site were written and proofread like his emails above – perhaps he’d still have some people’s confidence.




  8. Frederick’s “the people need me” stand is disgusting, but not quite as despicable as the “I can beat the vote” statement. What a complete egomaniacal moron.


  9. Another Moderate


    Let me clarify some of these things, so that the readers of this blog might better understand the situation, and not, as some of the ardent JMF supporters do, use outlandish reasons for his remaining.

    First, Jeff states in his dissertation that an overwhelming amount of people supported him and we cannot reverse that. In a society such as ours, we can use our governmental system to provide a parallel. The President is elected by a majority in the Electoral College, but the Senate has the right to impeach when they find reasonable grounds. Just because a bunch of people trundled down to Richmond does not absolve JMF to some sort of accounting to the Executive Committee and State Central. They are, a governing body and are supposed to keep the Chairman accountable on issues as they see fit. The Chairman, is not, and should not be given a blank check to engage in whatever he sees fit.

    Furthermore, these “grassroots” people have not been intimately involved in the day to day operations of the Party. An organization such as this needs a leader that is communicative, listens and can work to mend fences not make them higher. To date, Jeff Frederick has done nothing but continue to increase the divide between himself and those who do not support him in his quest to be RPV Chairman. I will be honest and state I never have supported Jeff. But, there for a brief time I was becoming increasingly willing to give him a chance. RPV was on the right track and fixing a lot of issues that had arisen. But then came the 2008 Election. Jeff decided he would be a comedian, instead of a statesman and he showed his immaturity by a series of political missteps that garnered a lot of attention. What’s worse is he never apologized.

    Fast forward to after the bloodletting of 2008, and we have the Darwin Comments (who know’s what popped in his mind there,) the Loose Tweets incident and the news that Mr. Frederick has been charging RPV to use his Dumfries office.

    Now, I am not necessarily opposed to him using money to pay himself for his office, but the fact that it was not disclosed to the Committee is what is bewildering. What happened to honesty, openness, and sunshine. For being such a Christian, he sure waffles with the truth.

    This is much like the RPV General Counsel issue, where the fact we were paying our Counsel (for the first time in RPV history) and it was buried in a budget that he proposed.

    Jeff’s supporters, argue that the Executive Committee is mean, and that they have been out to get him. This is not true. I know almost all the Executive Committee members, and each were more than willing to work with Mr. Frederick. However, a my way or the highway attitude is not working, thats dictating, and that is exactly how Jeff acts.

    In the end, it really comes down to leading, or managing. In the position of Chairman, you need a leader, who can bring people together, inspire people and work together. Jeff cannot do this. At the very least, you need a manager who can at least provide proper guidance to his organization. Unfortunately, Jeff cannot do that either.

    A good position was offered to me the other day by someone who said this is easy: The statewide candidates cannot work with the guy. So, we have to make a change, and it cannot be our state-wide candidates, so, I guess that only leaves one area to change.

    I have been around politics for a few years, and have dealt with a lot of the insider baseball that many people do not care, nor have any idea about. I know many members of State Central, and I know there are some on SCC that would walk to the ends of the earth for Jeff because he is a “true conservative” and a “great leader.” They are not able to be persuaded…I get that, but there are many members who are pragmatic and intelligent, and certainly they should see that the Republican Party of Virginia is at a crossroads, and it has no leadership at the head, at a time when we need calm, collected leaders, not prima donna’s interested in their own personal accumulation of power.

    These State Central Members that are going around saying this is a coup and there is no truth to any of the claims etc…ought to dig a little deeper before they open their mouth . Of course I have not been privy to all the details, as I am not a member of SCCEXC, but, it would do people well to do a little research before they automatically claim him innocent. A good place to start would be the FEC and SBE Financial Filings.

    One more point to be expanded upon. This is not a conservative vs. moderate issue. I am a self proclaimed moderate Republican. I know many in this Party share my same beliefs as many in this Party are strong conservatives. I know that Jeff falls in the Right-wing camp. I respect that. I will never not respect someone because of their values, that is absurd. So, I don’t care whether Jeff is conservative or moderate. What I do care is that he is a good leader and a good Chairman. And, he is not, so its pretty easy for me to see its time for a change.

    We have a Party that is teetering on the brink of extinction. We need a steady hand, and a solid mind at the helm. We have neither of these things with Jeff. To know this, please read his above e-mail. With the knowledge of having the over 3/4’s votes, he still pledges to fight this. This will lead to 30 days of media attention, distraction away from McDonnell, and bitterness erupting between party insiders. Yet, he will fight and he will take the Party and our candidates down with him if he has to. That’s not a leader, that is someone with a huge ego and Napoleon Complex. Is that what we need running RPV? A kid who has an ego problem?




  10. Define the “good of the Party.”

    Who would replace Jeff?




  11. “The Loose Tweets Incident” would be an excellent name for a rock band.


  12. NovaConservative


    I personally have said all along that if Bob Mcdonnell wants a new party Chairman, that would change things for me. It appears that is now the case.

    I still do believe, however, that state central should entirely transparent with exactly why they are doing what they are. It is no small thing to remove the elected chairman, and tihs is going to get ugly one way or other. It would be help if everyone in the party knew exactly what he’s done–obviously we have some ideas, but i’d like to see it spelled out in one document.




  13. Another Moderate #9, that is a great analysis!

    Napoleonic Complex indeed. This little twerp has it in spades.

    JAB, at this point ANYONE would be better than Frederick. There have simply been too many embarrassing mistakes from him.




  14. State Central has been (and is) abundantly transparent about the reasons why they want a new chairman. Do we really need an exposition of all the reasons? Perhaps we do…

    LI has it right — SSC now believes the short-term chaos of replacing the chair is preferable to the long term toleration of Frederick’s tenure at RPV.

    That’s 3/4ths of Frederick’s peers, and veterans of the fights in the trenches… not to be lightly discounted.

    Let’s end this myth that Frederick was elected on his own right: Jeff Frederick got elected because Bob Marshall nearly whacked Jim Gilmore, and because they felt cheated during the course of the convention, many were in the mood to punish. It was easy to do that calculus as the Gilmore supporters started streaming out and the Marshall supporters looked to lodge a protest vote.

    One of JMF’s failings was to assume he won. He did not. He was carried.

    A Chairman’s job is twofold: Raise money, help the grassroots. Ammo to the troops in the field. It is the only criteria for success or failure, whether it is at the national, state, district, or committee level. Nothing else. These things can be mitigated by poor campaigns, poor climates, acts of God, etc. But in the end, one should be able to look around at our unit and district committees and get the sense things are going well. Or poorly.

    So how are things? And have they become better since May 2008?


  15. reston libertarian


    First off thank you LI for posting these emails. Most of us don’t have access to the insider communications, and it is nice to hear directly from the horse’s mouth.

    It is unfortunate that J. Fred won’t meet, even to discuss resignation. Any such meeting could result in a productive outcome, that may even include J. Fred’s continued involvement in RPV. The ego’s appear to be too big to allow the aggrieved parties to meet productively, and so J. Fred deserves what he gets. Thanks for embarrassing the party.

    Finally, NovaCon is right about everything he said. Especially about the need to have this process out in the open.


  16. Alter of Freedom


    You gotta love all these people talking out of their arse about the “good of the Party” given what their actions have been in the blogosphere. It would be interesting to see who has done more to undermine the GOP; Jeff who 90% of the people blogging have never met; ever OR the so-called conservative bloggers that we read that rip and tear into the State GOP at every turn whether its Jeff, Steele, Limbaugh, Palin etc you name it.
    Some people may want to take their own advice and analyze their own actions in terms of whether they are acting in the best interests of the Party. I am not a supporter or apologist for Frederick, but he was elected to the position by Republicans who knew what they were getting. I wonder did we exactly know what we were getting in Obama? Seems to me buyers remorse is not only a GOP thing these days I guess, but I find it interesting that a conservative blog like this one has very little to say about the impact of such expansive government proclamations. Is there any effort not to attack Obama’s people given Loudoun County record in the election in an attempt not to offend; yeah Jeff is a much better target, right?




  17. Alter, if we are going to make an impact on national politics, we need to get our own house in order. That means having the best people for the job – people who can recruit good candidates, candidates that inspire trust and that people will vote for. That means all people, not just conservatives. Frederick wasn’t one of those people. I was at the convention. I saw the people who were voting for him. They were not a majority of the Republican party. They certainly are not part of a majority of Virginians. Michael Steele is making the same kinds of mistakes Frederick is making, and that has many of us concerned.

    When the Democrats can be semi-successful in their efforts to paint out party as being run by a talk-show host who has never run for office a day in his life, I think that means we’re not doing what we need to be doing to connect with the voters. And part of that is the intolerance that many seem to have for opposing viewpoints in this party. That’s always been my biggest concern with the Frederick’s, Limbaugh’s and Palin’s of the world. This used to be a big tent party. Now we’re more like a pup tent.

    Frederick is the symptom of a larger problem. But before we can fix that larger problem, we should tackle the ones we can tackle. And he’s one of them.




  18. AoF is a perplexing individual. Our own house better be in order, and our “leaders” better be impeccable if we are ever to retrun to power. I have been so hugely disappointed in the Republican Party and its standard bearers that I have a hard time calling myself a Republican anymore. From crooks like Cunningham and Foley to degenerates like Foley (again), Vitter, and Craig, to big spenders like GWB, to jerks like Delay, and on and on and on on the national level. Then we have the mess that is RPV with this little Napolean. What the hell does the GOP stand for anymore if it’s just as crooked and big spending as the Dems?

    I’m glad to see Shaun Kenney and I agree on this matter. Frederick was indeed carried into office on a wave of discontent. It was much more an anti-establishment vote than it was a for-Frederick vote. But as with most narcissistic douchebags, Frederick just can’t get that through his thick skull. Sorry to be so blunt and coarse, but that is what this mess deserves. It has to end.




  19. If Jeff is removed by SCC, what’s to stop him from running for “re-election” at the State Convention in May? My reading of the party plan (if I’m wrong, please correct me) is that SCC can only appoint an interim Chairman to serve until the next regularly-scheduled Convention. He clearly believes he represents the will of the last Convention. Many of those same folks will be back this year. That’s a pretty good base to start with, and “Show the SCC who’s boss!” is a pretty good populist platform.

    Presumably there will be an interim Chairman running for the remainder of the term with the backing of SCC and McDonnell. Perhaps Ed Gillespie? McDonnell will, at this point, be so invested in this fight that he will put heavy pressure on the Convention delegates to back his candidate.

    And then, of course, there may be self-starting wildcard candidates. Tom Davis or Paul Harris could decide to make a run at it if they don’t get the SCC/McDonnell nod. Bob Marshall is still looking for redemption since the last Convention. There are plenty of ambitious unit chairmen.

    And if (as seems likely to me) Cooch shows up with a plurality of support for his race, does he pick sides? Seems to me that his natural inclination would be to support Jeff, but if he’s close-but-not-quite to the AG nomination, could he cut a deal with McDonnell?

    Seems to me that the State Convention may have just gotten a lot more interesting.


  20. Please Jeff Go


    There is a psychosis here: self-rightousness coupled with arrogance, incompetence, and juvenile smugness.
    We are now witnessing the Gotteramerdung of Jeff Frederick and I hope it does not last long.
    I worry about the basic concept of RPV Conventions where they will allow the election of such a feckless weasel,


  21. NovaConservative


    Shaun–basically yes. We do need an exposition. And by “we” I don’t really mean me personally, but I do mean the party as a whole.

    Like it or not, a lot of people voted for this guy. And many of them happen to be the same people who do a lot of the work that elects Republicans around VA. Yes, as you say, they were Bob Marshall people–but so what? Those people worked for their candidates, played by the rules, and elected Jeff Frederick.

    I’m not saying he should’t be removed–especially now that it is clear that Bob McDonnell wants him gone–that’s sort of a “say no more” moment for me. BUT–it isn’t for a lot of others, and they are–and will continue to–feel used and dis-enfranchised.

    And that is bad for the party. So the smart thing to do is really have a transparent process that seriously lists every last reason why Jeff Frederick should be removed. If that happens and people still disagree with it, then fine. But right now, you have a lot of confused people out there, many of whom are not privy to the same kind of information as you, me and LI might be. I’ve heard some very valid reasons for removing Frederick over the last few days, and I think that if they were more widely known, this would look less like sour grapes and more like the best thing for the party.

    So let’s be smart about the way we go about this so we don’t have a totally fractured party. LI will come right back and blame Frederick for that–and he might be right to do so. But I’d come right back to him and say–you know what–it doesn’t matter. We cannot afford to have significant segments–and they are, whether you like it or not–feeling pissed off at our nominee and the process. So lets at least make an attempt to get everybody unified here.


  22. JJ


    Only ego-tripping turds sign off their emails with their full set of initials. “JMF”. As if, I’m sooooooo powerful that you don’t even need to know who I am, you automatically know when you see those three initials.


  23. JJ


    If only his self-promoting and power hungry wife held some sort of office that we could eject her from as well!


  24. JJ


    I’ll have to go back and look, but did Frederick’s “120 day plan” include “get removed from office”?




  25. Shaun, the cabal throwing Jeff out have not been open and above board. Or, at least they haven’t been with me as a member of SCC.




  26. Well they should be, JAB. I must admit I don’t understand why they want to keep the likely diehard Frederick supporters in the dark. They should circulate this letter to everyone. That said, it is still overly abundantly clear that Frederick must go.




  27. I agree, LI. At this point, with the amount of press coverage that exists, there’s no point in not circulating the letter to the entire SCC, even those who back Frederick.

    Speaking of, I got a message over RPVNetwork:

    “Please consider showing your support for Jeff Fredrick, by joining the new group: ‘We Support Chairman Jeff Frederick’”

    That’s a cut and paste.


  28. Alter of Freedom


    “perplexing”? not really. Just principled. I do not let symantics like the Chair position deviate me from my core beliefs and niether should you Loudoun Insider. If you give others the power to bring you off your principles than you were certainly not very fixed in those positions. Does a loss by any successful coach cause them to ditch their planning or game structure; no nor does free agency. Players like candidates come and go and successful coaches just like leaders find people to fit into the system and make it work. people here are all too quick to ditch a platform because they are buying into the mantra that it does not work anymore and that is simply not the case. We will see where all these people will be in two years when taxes are higher, government is more intrusive, and freedoms like gun and speech are under attack….what will they be clamoring for then I wonder?


  29. RABBLE ROUSER


    LI, by calling JF a “douche bag” you are defiling the good name of legitimate douches that millions of women across this globe use daily. How dare you belittle such a good product :)




  30. Ok, Alter, I got to say this. CHECK THE SPELLING. It’s “A-L-T-A-R.” Been driving me crazy.




  31. Maybe it’s a play on “atler ego”?




  32. There’s a long story to the alter spelling. What I mean by perplexing is that you (AoF) seem to be a reasonable Republican. I don’t see how any reasonable Republican, no matter how conservative, can support Jeff Frederick remaining as RPV Chairman. He has to go for the good of the party. Him wanting to stay on and fight just shows you how egomaniacal he is.


  33. notjfred


    I think the best thing about this is that the voteamy.com website is back up and running. Right now they are in the “draft” stage. Apparently with the more than likely expulsion of one Frederick, another one needs to get out there to keep the name up. In either case, these two are not going away, but haunting RPV for a long time to come.

    I never was a Frederick supporter, especially after the stunts he pulled during the election. My disdain for the man has quintupled and then quintupled again. Although the negative press the party has received since JFred took office is definitely not a good thing, there could be a silver lining. Can you image the cake walk that ANY opponent of Frederick’s would have with the amount of crap that he has pulled and is ON THE INTERNET? How could one possible run with titles Worse and Worsest in the world? Or being quoted in a respected periodical drawing inappropriate comparisons between Obama and Osama. With the current temper tantrum he is throwing, he can kiss any other aspirations good bye.

    The sine die session best summed up “JMF”- five delegates announced their retirements. All received standing ovations, four had at least five people stand up and make nice comments. Someone did stand up after Fred’s soliloquy, he made a request regarding a bill.




  34. NLS put up those five speeches:

    http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2009/03/emotional-heartfelt-sentimental-loving-and-hysterical.html

    And there are still people saying this guy should stay as RPV Chairman! That goes to show you how utterly dysfunctional the GOP is in Virginia.




  35. “Speaking of, I got a message over RPVNetwork:

    “Please consider showing your support for Jeff Fredrick, by joining the new group: ‘We Support Chairman Jeff Frederick’”

    Yeah, me too. And I threw up in my mouth a little bit.


  36. notjfred


    What I do not understand is that RPV is to remain neutral. No one saw “We Support John Hager” on any RPV owned website/medium a year ago. What makes Chairman/former Delegate/General D-Bag Frederick allowed to garner support using a party source? The same goes for the Lt. Gov race. JFred is not to be going around campaigning or mentioning one candidate’s name over the other. As a matter of fact, was there not at some point some hell raising by him because RPV showed “support” of Hager? Pot, kettle, black.

    To tell you the truth, every time I see the name Jeff Frederick my stomach starts to roll… or I laugh of the pure stupidity of it all.


  37. Another Moderate


    Mr. Atticus Bowen-

    It is unfortunate, that you, as a member of State Central would need to be explained the definition of “Good of the Party.” If we set aside Mr. Frederick’s weekly media disasters, which only continue to hurt our image and distract the media from coverage of the McDonnell Campaign, perhaps we can look at the questionable monetary situation at RPV. To further that, Jeff Frederick’s use of RPV materials to attempt to save himself from removal from office.

    Here is a little known fact. The prior Financial Chair met with 76 businessmen and NONE, not ONE of them would give money as long at “JMF” was Chairman of RPV. It is a wide known fact that the business community will not support the Frederick administration. So, without RPV getting money from the biz community, where is it going to come from? I don’t see all those “grassroots” that attended the convention in May donating to RPV in droves?

    We need a face of the Party, and what we got ain’t hacking it…so, when we talk about good of the party, that is part of what we mean.




  38. How much has Frederick himself donated to RPV or other candidates? I bet not much. He’s totally relying on rich extremists like Curt and now Rensin. Curt is already gone after bashing RPV. After Rensin there aren’t that many left.




  39. NJF – Technically the RPVNetwork is independent of RPV. Endorsed by, but not run by. So it’s not internal cheerleading.


  40. notjfred


    I stand corrected. Thanks.

    If I am not mistaken, not a whole lot of money went to Frederick from RPV, he tended to be a little more “independent.” I also think at some point during the campaign he said that he does not need RPV’s help to get money.

    I think that Jeff Frederick does not care about RPV, many would say that this would go without saying. This is reason enough for him to NOT be Chairman. His campaign and subsequent win of the Chairmanship was and also will be a political move that came back and bit him in the butt.

    Another thing that I noticed is that the blogs that showed their support for Frederick last year are conspicuously quiet in light of recent events, whereas the pro-Hager bloggers and left leaning blogs have been reporting every move that Frederick has made over the year. They are all on fire now with all of this. I take this a few different ways and look forward to seeing what does happen on this front.




  41. It is more and more apparent that J-Fred cares only about himself.

    A commenter on another site said that Frederick has been charging RPV $2400 a month for the use of his dumfries office. I haven’t confirmed this yet, but if it’s true, information like that must come to light. I don’t understand why they would be holding this information back. get it out to the rank and file and let them join the chorus for his removal.


  42. To Quote South Park


    RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.

    Another Moderate:
    As a successful small business owner, the day Mike Thompson takes the helm I’m donating $1000 to the RPV…I have no doubt others will do the same.

    And if Amy ends up running, I’m sending her opponent a little something. I don’t like either of these two.

    RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.


  43. Alter of Freedom


    Lloyd the Idiot- no its not “altar”—read your actual history in the text of the time friend and not the modern intepretations either. Linclon used the phrase “alter”. Thank god you were not the one reading the thesis or taking part in its defense. BTW you are late to the game; we have been over this countless times and just goes to show to me that people really have no clue when it comes to old english and our own history.




  44. Maximus, maker of the ever more apropos Bunker video, is back in action against J-Fred!

    http://thecontemporaryconservative.blogspot.com/2009/03/jeff-frederick-thinks-he-is-more.html

    Love the graphic!




  45. Alter,

    You are correct in Lincoln’s use of that spelling. If you’re saying I have no clue about history, I’d have to disagree. If you’re saying I have no clue about English, maybe you’re right on that one, too. I do know, however, that the term is capitalized.


  46. NoVA Scout


    JAB – re No.10 – are you saying the best we have is this kid? You have a distinguished record of service to the country. You are a discerning, knowledgeable fellow. Is this really the best we have for that position? How horrible is that?




  47. That’s Mike Thomas, not Thompson, To Quote South Park (#42).




  48. As I said on another site, I have lots of respect for James Atticus Bowden, and know that he is a very religious man. I am not against religious people having political positions of power, but if they profess to be so, they better walk the walk. Just to show that I am not afraid of hardline Christian conservatives, I would back JAB for RPV Chairman in a second because I believe him to be a real man of honor. Frederick? No way.


  49. RWN


    LI – If you gave as much energy to building up party leaders as you do to tearing down party leaders, maybe you would be worthwhile to the GOP.




  50. RWN, long time no comment!

    Frederick did a fine job tearing himself down all by himself. He needs to go for the good of the party. Do you honestly think he can be effective after all that has transpired?

    I can’t stand hypocrites, especially so-called religious conservative hypocrites. They deserve every bit of scorn they earn when they act otherwise.




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