R.I.P. Sen. Ted Kennedy

By VA Blogger

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The “Liberal Lion” of the Senate has passed away after fighting brain cancer. Regardless of your opinions of him, there is no doubt that he was a great U.S. Senator. There’s a reason why virtually every President and Senator he served with had the highest respect for hm. It is always a sad day in America when an historical and iconic figure leaves us.

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Comments

  • G. Stone says:

    Had justice prevailed Kennedy may have never made it to the Senate.

  • I Bleed Obama Blue says:

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    “[Kennedy] fled the scene, leaving the victim to die, did not report the accident until the following day and then lied to police.”
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    The only part of that statement that you know anything about is when he reported the accident. You weren’t there, you don’t know what happened.
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    Was Mary Jo dead w/Ted left the scene? Maybe, maybe not. Did he try to save her? Maybe, maybe not. What lies did Kennedy tell? What IS the truth? I don’t know, and neither do you.
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    In the end, since the facts are unknown, we each believe what we want to believe. I believe Senator Kennedy, although deeply flawed as a younger man, rose to greatness as he grew older and will rightly be remembered as one of the greatest Senators in American history (to date).
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  • Not John S. Mosby says:

    Alter of Stupidity is really showing how much of a nutbar he is in this thread. I’m so happy that Republicans have decided to embrace this lunacy this August, as it’s allowing moderates and liberals alike to realize how fucking crazy a lot of them are. Great job citizens, you’re actually hanging yourselves with your own George Allen-issue “hangin’ nooses”.

  • Alter of Freedom says:

    Glad I hit a nerve Mosby. Must be on to something. You never like having you double standards thrown back in your faces. Apply equal standards to issues on both sides and you will not run into that problem. Curious, what makes me stupid? That you disagree with me or the fact you do not like the fact that you want things both ways but can’t have them. I guess I am just a stupid “redneck, downstater” right because I think you should apply your own logic than to the Vick situation if you want to use it to justify Kennedy’s career. Did I not commend Kennedy. Am I not being respectful to Kennedy? I di nothing to attack Kennedy, but attacked the left displaced logic it uses. Its like they are just sticking a wet finger in the air to check the wind. Mosby and others suffer from cronic lense disporder; Democrats good Republicans bad. Apologize any Democrat shortcoming and pounce on any Republican one.

    BTW Mosby and his buddies at the church of MSNBC where he worships do a great job playing the game of politics; they suck at civics, but at politics they got it done really good….they don’t want you to know that the automatic rifle carrying town hall citizen exploited by them was an African-American…MSNBC cropped the picture as they and Mosby contend protests are race-based by the right so they can play up that card-again.
    Yeah, Mosby I will take “Stupid” over IGNORANT anyday of the week and twice on Sunday. If ignorance were a commodity, the far left surely would own the market.

  • Not John S. Mosby says:

    I’m just sorry you haven’t committed suicide yet, as you surely will one day.

  • G. Stone says:

    The only part of that statement that you know anything about is when he reported the accident. You weren’t there, you don’t know what happened.
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    Two people in a car, car goes in the water. One person survives. One dies. The survivor tells authorities 12 hours later.

    Do the math dipshit.

  • Alter of Freedom says:

    All is not lost Mosby, looks like I am really close to endorsing Tom Shields in the 73rd House District…yeah I am such a right wing wacko I like that Democrat alot over incumbant O’Bannon. Diatribes from you are rather ridiculous given you have zero creditibility when it comes to objectivity on issues. At least have the intellectual integrity to remain objective of people with simply prejudging them based on an (R) or a (D). With Liberals like you you will help drive even more Independents back to the Republican side of the aisle….seen any polls lately???

  • wolverine says:

    Some liked Ted. Some didn’t. Some can grieve for a fallen hero. Others ought simply to apply that old military courtesy of saluting the final passage of a skilled and feisty foe. The man is dead, positives and negatives and warts and all. Do we want to become the sort of people who dance with glee or hatred on the grave of another American, even if we opposed him mightily during his lifetime? Argue intellectually if you must about the perceived positives and negatives of the man’s life, but I don’t think we ought to dance on his grave or demean the occasion by lashing out at each other. If we — all of us — cannot find a moment of solemn peace at the death of one of our fellow citizens, what hope do we have of ever finding peace of any kind?

    BTW, Dan. That bit about Nixon at Pat’s funeral. You did good, man.

  • Cato the Elder says:

    “I’m just sorry you haven’t committed suicide yet, as you surely will one day.”
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    Deadpool running on NJSM. Even odds on Jan 20th, 2013. 2:1 offered for anytime during October 2012. My bet – Jan 20th, right after he hears the words “I, Sarah Louise Palin…” from the MSNBC feed.

  • Yikes. NJSM, that comment is pretty much the bottom of any barrel that’s been rolled out here.

  • Cato the Elder says:

    “Rumor has it that the MA Governor is going to have the law requiring special elections changed, again”
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    Well, fun rumor, with emphasis on rumor. Romney is positioning for 2012, and Mass Senate has nothing but downside risk for him, so if I were a betting man (which I am) I’d say that the law won’t get changed due to the long line of Dem candidates for this seat (no way they’ll vote to change the law so they can participate in the Deval lottery) and we’ll have a Dem Senator elected long about February against token (R) resistance.

  • vacliff says:

    Yes, let’s look at the legacy. I borrowed the following from a post on our Forum. As far as I’m concerned, a person who allowed another person to die and used his families power and money to cover it up has finally joined his victim.
    Here’s the post:

    An Honest Summary of Ted Kennedy’s Disgraceful Life

    The following is an e-mail from an anonymous patriot that is meant to counter all the liberal attempts to white-wash Ted Kennedy’s disgraceful betrayal of America and his equally shameful personal life. Feel free to send this article to all your friends. –Editor’s Note.
    As soon as his cancer was detected, I noticed the immediate attempt at the “canonization” of old Teddy Kennedy by the mainstream media. They are saying what a “great American” he is. I say, let’s get a couple things clear and not twist the facts to change the real history:
    1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him.
    2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops! The man can’t count to four! His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea , where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received).
    3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris , never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of his “education” NEVER advancing past the rank of Private!
    4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia , he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark. Yet his Virginia driver’s license was never revoked.. Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959. Amazing!
    5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash, and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a “state secret” until in the 1980’s when the report was unsealed.. Didn’t hear about that from the unbiased media, did we?
    6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts . At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur’s keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and sank into Poucha Pond.
    7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, passing several houses and a fire station. Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew – that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead, Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. Kopechne was able to stay alive for a while breathing a bubble of air inside the car.
    One sourcenotes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident) “A diver was sent down and discovered Kopechne’s body at around 8:45 am. The diver, John Farrar, later testified at the inquest that Kopechne’s body was pressed up in the car in the spot where an air bubble would have formed. He interpreted this to mean that Kopechne had survived for a while after the initial accident in the air bubble, and concluded that: ‘Had I received a call within five to ten minutes of the accident occurring, and was able, as I was the following morning, to be at the victim’s side within twenty-five minutes of receiving the call, in such event there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car.’ ”
    The Kennedy family began “calling in favors”, ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne and he didn’t call police because he was in a state of shock.
    It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy’s “political enemies” have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS.
    Kopechne’s family received a small pay out from the Kennedy’s insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy’s family paid their attorney’s bills… a “token of friendship”?
    8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, and funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors and is widely held as the “standard-bearer for liberalism”. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.
    9. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation in matters of “what’s right”.
    10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than “great American”. “A blond in every pond” should be his motto.
    Let’s not allow the spin doctors to make this disgraceful drunk and whore of anti-American special interests a hero. It’s shameful that more people don’t know what his real legacy is.

  • Not John S. Mosby says:

    Yeah Alter of Stupidity, you’re very unbiased. Just a broken down, beat down guy who’s only sorry he was born a generation or two too late to join the lynch mobs and the Massive Resistance crowd. Because that’s how you deal with all the uppity blacks and other minorities and their turncoat white helpers, right?

  • wolverine says:

    Good Lord, NJSM! Your girlfriend throw you out or something?

  • Alter of Freedom says:

    Can I quote you NJSM? I want to give you a chance to retract your statement before I included in the newsletter going out to just under 2,500 voters in the coalition down here in various districts illustrating just how over the top passions have gotten regarding partisan discourse. You make some very large assumptions about me for sure and if you for one minute asked yourself just what demo brought you victories say in the Webb/Allen race and others it would be us independents but then you have never been one to truly own up to real facts that were not invented by Media Matters and like groups. Which generation do you actually think I am from in reality? People like you frankly do a disservice to everything you say Kennedy stood for and if you want to continue divisive rhetoric you will do nothing more than emabarass yourself and convince others you have lost your bearings….wait you may already have.

  • I Bleed Obama Blue says:

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    That’s just the half-witted response I’d expect from you, Stone.
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    You’ve “solved” an equation without knowing most of the numbers.
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    Congratulation, Moron.

  • I Bleed Obama Blue says:

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    Yes, Kennedy was a bastard as a young man. So what? Every “disgrace” in your unattributed, cut & paste screed is from at least 40 years ago. Ted Kennedy “grew up” to be a great man and a great Senator, and that it is greatness for which he’ll be remembered.

  • Cato the Elder says:

    Breaking news: Cutty Sark to sponsor the Kennedy funeral. Developing…

  • “And yet, YOUR good deeds in life have apparently redeemed you from the bad, while to your mind that equation doesn’t apply to Sen. Kennedy. Where’s the humility in that claim?”
    Look, jackass… Reading comprehension not being your strong suit…I suppose I have to spell it out for you. I was trying to elevate Kennedy’s misdirected notions as his personal journey towards making amends. I gave him credit for it, and actually interjected that thru personal experience, I could identify with his efforts.

  • “apply that old military courtesy of saluting the final passage of a skilled and feisty foe.”
    This is the spirit in which I posted, Wolv.
    I wasn’t speaking ill of the man…but merely tossing out how he must have viewed and lived with a number of mistakes and his attempt to rectify them. I was attempting to paint him as “human”.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    I read it that way BM and your comments are a welcomed salve.

  • Thank you EB. The context is often removed to imply an intent that was never there.
    I have plenty to say about the man, should I choose. Today and the following weeks aren’t the time to do that. My prayers are with his immediate family and I sincerely hope that the loss is softened for them.

  • I Bleed Obama Blue says:

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    Welcome to Douche-ville, Stone; population: YOU. Take you faint, qualified praise for Sen. Kennedy and shove it up you’re a$$!
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    Whatever you were; “trying to do” with regard to your comments toward Sen. Kennedy, you FAILED. A simple: “thank you, sir, for your service to our nation” would have sufficed.
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    It’s a shame that your ideology got in the way of your honor.

  • vacliff says:

    obamablue-
    Yeah, you’re right. As long as you killed someone 40 years ago, it’s okay.
    If he was in jail where he belonged he wouldn’t have been able to do all those “great” things.

  • Loudoun Watcher says:

    I think it’s too bad that some posters on this blog are getting more and more foul mouthed. There comments cannot hold merit because of the nasty way they write. IBOB, you really are angry, aren’t you? Maybe almost as angry as I was, vacationing on Cape Cod, when I heard the news about the Chappaquidick incident. So clean up your act, you are certainly entitled to your love of Sen. Kennedy and his unrelenting liberalism (read: I spend your money to help other people, but not mine). I feel bad that he died before his time. I feel bad for his family and friends. But there was a dark side to him, as there was to his two brothers. He is not the hero all you fellow libs would make him out to be.

  • AFF says:

    Nasty comments?
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    Pot, meet kettle.
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    Your passive aggressive bullshit has been stoking this thread.

  • Loudoun Watcher says:

    AFF, there’s nothing passive about it. Take another look above, my comments are nothing compared to the rest of the posters. And the nastiest ones are those defending the indefensible. Liberals all. Yuck.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    Ted Kennedy was a very flawed man (personally and professionally) from a rich, powerful and corrupt family. I couldn’t stand the sight of him and can’t understand the Kennedy Family’s appeal.

    I believe he did more harm than good in this world and should have been in jail for many acts in his life, but his family name got him out of every immoral and illegal decision he made. I feel sad for the people that found him to be a hero and statesman – of which he was neither.

    That he is dead is of no consequence to me, it is actually an opportunity for the people of MA and the country to be rid of another old, wornout, blowhard politician. Kennedy’s reign was too long and rife with controversy and miguided liberal decisions.

    I feel sorry for his family, but that is about the best thing I can say.

  • Alfred E. Newman says:

    LL, you’re a spiteful, angry person. Why would anyone take the time to post such an insulting, angry diatribe about someone who is no longer around to defend themselves? Of cpurse, Kennedy was a flawed individual. I’m even willing to recognize that his station got him multiple second chances. But when someone passes away, it is humane to either speak well of his successes or just keep your mouth shut.

    You must really be perfect to be able to make such stark conclusions about other people and their character. Personally, I would never consider myself to be so complete as to be qualified to sit on such a high perch.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    Edmund, I express my opinion as I wish like everyone else on this blog. I saw Kennedy as enough of a threat to our liberties to comment on his life, and I feel sorry for his family.

    This forum is where people come to express their opinions. I suppose you could ask the owners of this site – why bother(?) as well.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    Alfred, See my post to Edmund, or go pound sand – whichever you wish.

  • AFF says:

    …… rhymes with runt. Sure ain’t no lady.

  • Alter of Freedom says:

    There are days like these when I feel as proud as ever to be blessed to be an American. To love America and all that it stands for is to love the fruits of democracy, which only truly works with opposition. Kennedy certainly fought many of the good fights as he saw fighting them and deserves the respect of all Americans. We see these times in our history that are all too brief, like right after 9/11 for example and then in the church for Kenendy’s service where we place all things aside and just see ourselves as Americans FIRST. Those idealogues that place their political views above all else should be take a lesson from the dead and those that would seek to exploit this momment for some political gain ojn either side ought be called out on the carpet. I have come to understand in listening to some of the cable channels that pundits are often the worst offenders and seek an instance to bring more appeal to a particualar ideal than to honor a fallen American. We all witnessed this with our fallen soldiers in tha last six years and unfortunately some now are using Kennedy’s passing as merely a selfish opportunity of justification instead of a time of honoring a fallen comrade.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    AFF, Typical name calling liberal, sounds like a reply out of old Teddy’s mouth – only missing the irritating accent.

  • “to either speak well of his successes or just keep your mouth shut. ”
    I disagree. I ‘ll speak of his passing kindly – absent of any deliberate mention of his sins, but absolutely acknowledge both his failings and his very human reasons for those failings.
    I don’t need to speak of his “successes” as such, because what some may have considered success, there’s an equal part of us that view some of those as catastophes.
    The funeral had it’s good moments (where Hatch shared the moments that reflect on Kennedy as a Tip O’neil-like figure)and it’s bad moments….like children’s prayers that were obviously rehearsed (to endorse healthcare pushes) and the same disgusting antics that the Democrats brought out at the Wellstone funeral. Have they no decency?

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