04 Feb 2010

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Feb 04th by Too Conservative



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  1. Loudoun Lady


    The twittery music is a bit much, but I like the message.


  2. Will Stewart


    Interestingly enough;

    “The global-average lower tropospheric temperature anomaly soared to +0.72 deg. C in January, 2010. This is the warmest January in the 32-year satellite-based data record.”

    From a well-known skeptic, Roy Spencer;
    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/02/january-2010-uah-global-temperature-update-0-72-deg-c/

    Local temperatures don’t give one the big picture, so snow storms or even local trends don’t give an indication what the GLOBAL trend is.


  3. edmundburkenator


    The world is flat. If it were round, everyone would be falling for the 6,000 years we’ve all been here. Right LL? Are you with me?




  4. Will, how, exactly, do you explain the following?
    CHINA – Snow storms today have caused chaos in China’s capital of Beijing, grinding aeroplanes to a halt and causing severe traffic delays. Around 90 per cent of all flights were either delayed or cancelled, leaving thousands of passengers stranded. In addition, major roads in Beijing and Tianjin, as well as nearby provinces Hebei, Shanxi and Inner Mongolia, were forced to close due to the heavy snow. The snow shows no sign of stopping, however, and temperatures are expected to drop to -16C in Beijing on Monday and Tuesday, causing more problems for those attempting to returning to work after a three-day New Year holiday.

    INDIA – Not a country usually associated with snow, India has experienced severe problems since Saturday when snowfall and a dense blanket of fog began to cause chaos. More than 30 people died in cold-weather related incidents in Northern India over the past 24 hours, with 10 of those losing their lives in train accidents caused by the fog. Meanwhile, 24 homeless people have also died in the Uttar Pradesh state since Saturday due to the severe drop in temperature. Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir were all hit with heavy snow, while Gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana and Delhi also recorded snowfall over the past 24 hours.

    RUSSIA – A country much more used to dealing with high levels of snow, Russia saw temperature lows of a chilling -20C in Moscow today. Those travelling on trains at stations near the Russian city of Vorkuta, attempted to continue their journeys despite the freezing conditions. Workers also tried to sweep snow from the train tracks, but found it was falling too fast to clear. However, two men making the most of the snow were Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin who decided to take to the slopes in Krasnaya Polyana near the Black Sea resort of Sochi in southern Russia.

    GERMANY – The snow caused more problems with flights in Germany, with one jet veering off the runway at Dortmund airport in western Germany. The Air Berlin Boeing 737-800 broke to abort the take-off due to a ‘technical irregularity’, but none of the 165 passengers and six crew members were injured. The plane was not damaged but flights from the airport were canceled or diverted for a large part of the day. Airline spokeswoman Diane Daedelow said: ‘A combination of the snowy weather and the speed the plane was traveling at forced the plane to skid off the runway.’ Over 30 flights from Frankfurt airport were also canceled this morning.

    AUSTRIA – While they are much more accustomed to dealing with snow, even native Austrians were struggling to cope with the freezing lows of -8C at night and -3C during the day. But one creature happy to bound around in the fluffy snow was a mix breed dog called Lotta, who seemed entirely unconcerned as she became coated in snow during her run in Unken, in the Austrian province of Salzburg. Meteorologists have predicted continued light snowfalls for the upcoming days in Austria.

    KOREA – Seoul residents slogged through the heaviest snowfall in modern Korean history after a winter storm dumped more than 11 inches (28 centimeters) Monday, forcing airports to cancel flights and paralyzing traffic in South Korea’s bustling capital. The snow and icy roads snarled traffic in and out of Seoul, and at least three people died in traffic accidents. Many commuters squeezed into packed subways to get to work, and a Cabinet meeting was delayed because ministers were stuck in traffic.

    FLORIDA – A wind chill advisory was issued for most of South Florida, and temperatures were forecast to dip below freezing in far western Broward. On Monday and Tuesday, the mercury is expected to top out around 60 degrees — 17 degrees below normal. The lows in most of South Florida are expected to be in the mid-30s to low 40s. Jacksonville fell to 26 degrees overnight Saturday, well below the typical temperature of 42 degrees, said Dave Samuhel, a meteorologist for AccuWeather.com. A low of 20 degrees was forecast for Sunday night, which would break the existing record of 22 degrees, Samuhel said. Orlando was expected to slip to 27 degrees Sunday night, shattering its record of 31 degrees.

    DALLAS, TEXAS – There won’t be a snowy blizzard when a powerful blast of Canadian air reaches North Texas later this week, but the “arctic outbreak” could provide wind chill values close to, or even below, zero. The arctic front might kick up some cold rain Wednesday night, according to the National Weather Service. But what is certain is that there will be stiff north winds Thursday, a possible low of 16 degrees Thursday night, and then bitterly cold temperatures Friday and on through the weekend. Also, “wind chill values are expected to fall into the single digits or below Thursday morning,” according to a special statement issued by the National Weather Service office in Fort Worth.




  5. http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2009/12/brrr-growing-ice-sheets-growing.html


  6. Barbara Munsey


    I’d rather he explain why Rajendra Pachauri, who has no climate science background, is the head of the IPCC, AND has garnered so many cushy directorships from his global warming fearmongering (with AR4 refs pulled from WWF solicitation ads).




  7. It’s a pretty good acid test. Winning votes with the claim that Climate == Weather requires a self-centered uneducated electorate. No wonder the RPV is anti-science-education. TC, can you post a link to the young earth creationism advertisement?


  8. Buffy


    If it’s cold at my house, global warming must not exist – LOL! Always sad but entertaining to see how hopelessly ignorant some folks are.


  9. local gop


    For me the bigger question is why did the RPV waste money on this video? Ok, so its snowing therefore theres no global warming. Besides the illogical nature of this video, its a huge waste of money and coming from the party that claims to be fiscally responsible. Disappointing really.




  10. Local, it’s a fun tweak at Washington before they start to push cap and trade. This probably didn’t cost that much. RPV has been putting out a lot of web videos.


  11. Buffy


    I’d say that it cost the GOP and, America as a whole, a lot – in that it was essentially pointless, unfunny, and further drove a wedge between the two parties. As President Obama said, the public is tired of partisan grandstanding. Instead of spending their time on a baseless “humorous” attack, why isn’t the GOP working to solve some the serious problems Americans are facing?


  12. Barbara Munsey


    Jonathan, how funny that you would bash the electorate on that mistake, when your own party milked the fallacy that weather = climate in the wake of Katrina.

    And then that massive increase in hurricanes didn’t pan out…thank goodness, eh?

    Or not?

    Since maybe it would have frightened a “self-centered uneducated electorate” into supporting cap and trade, and all the other bullshit of the self-centered supposedly-educated “elite”. lolol


  13. Cato the Elder


    Interesting. So, can you climate cassandras provide us unedumacated science-hating dolts with the equation which depicts the relationship between CO2 levels and temperature?
    *
    *crickets*


  14. Steve Vaughan


    “RPV: Dumbing Things Down Since 1993″




  15. Buffy, c’mon. I know Democrats generally can’t walk and chew gum at the same time, but we’re not like that. It’s possible for our party to be working to solve problems while at the same time making funny videos.


  16. Barbara Munsey


    Cato, the only mild objection I would have to the phrase “climate Cassandra” (which really is a nice bit!) in referring to the zealots of the First and Only Church of AGW is that poor Cassandra was reviled, and then proved correct when it was too late to do anything.

    If there are any Cassandras connected to the whole IPCC/AGW/New World Economy by fiat scheme, it is probably the skeptics, at least IMO. I hope someone looks into the AR4/Pachauri/CRU/etc mess before we end up with global carbon trading (the next bubble scandal) as facilitated by crooks at the UN.




  17. Jon, it’s more loke “Winning votes with the claim that Climate Change is occurring, while breezing right past all the actual scientific proof that deconstructs it. That, on itself requires a self-centered and very uneducated Party to push it.”

    Look at the majority of Scientists that do not work for the Government, nor twist information to secure their grants, and you get a completely different (and honest)outlook.

    It’s alot like McG… “Who want’s to make some money?”
    Once you debunk the science with the evidence that the ice shelf is actually growing since 2004, and that CO2 levels haven’t changed in the last 130 years…the rest just shows how pathetic the left really is. They’ll believe anything they hear without an ounce of proof. And then tell us to open our minds.


  18. G. Stone


    I’d say that it cost the GOP and, America as a whole, a lot – in that it was essentially pointless, unfunny, and further drove a wedge between the two parties. As President Obama said, the public is tired of partisan grandstanding. Instead of spending their time on a baseless “humorous” attack, why isn’t the GOP working to solve some the serious problems Americans are facing?

    Buffy
    on February 5th, 2010

    Buffy, why don’t you and Edmunburkentor go slay some vampires.


  19. G. Stone


    Someone should email this to Andrea McGimsey




  20. “pointless, unfunny, and further drove a wedge between the two parties”
    Outright lies with no basis in truth tend to do that…. And Dems are guilty as hell in this case.




  21. G, I’m hunting down ideologues. Tougher to kill.




  22. Speaking of Pachauri, it seems that the government of India doesn’t much trust him either:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7157590/India-forms-new-climate-change-body.html

    I am an environmental engineer with over 20 years experience. Let me tell you, I have learned the hard way never to trust an environmental modeler quite as far as I can throw him or her. This anthropogenic global warming stuff is more religion than science. (Believe it or not, there are scientists WITHIN the government who agree with me.)


  23. Barbara Munsey


    I believe it.

    ANY model has its limitations, and, well….in some caes, garbage in, garbage out.

    One hundred percent in agreement on the religion aspect of it.

    Fundamentalist end times religion.


  24. Cato the Elder


    “Buffy, why don’t you and Edmunburkentor go slay some vampires”
    *
    Because Buffy would suggest that the vampire enter psychotherapy, and Ed would demand that the vampire be mirandized before doing so.




  25. http://thebulletproofmonk.blogspot.com/2010/02/snow-accumulation-is-at-18-inches.html

    8 more inches on top of the 18 we have here, and we’re going past the 100 year old record that the 18 inches represents..

    Maybe we ought to be worried about glaciers instead of sea flooding.


  26. vacliff


    C’mon, you all need to get with the program.
    Is it cold out? It’s due to global warming.
    Is it warm out? It’s due to global warming.
    Is it dry out? It’s due to global warming.
    Is it wet out? It’s due to global warming.
    Mudslides, fires, earthquakes? Global warming.
    Floods and droughts? Global warming.
    Tornadoes and hurricanes? Yep. Global warming.

    Just ask them and they can explain why global warming causes everything.
    It’s truly no longer science, but a religion.


  27. Barbara Munsey


    Cliff, I keep telling myself “Fragile Nature….FRAGILE Nature….”

    but it isn’t working.

    I must lack faith?

    Or most likely be predestined for damnation.




  28. Cato, if I’m able to prove you’re a vampire without your testimony, I don’t need to Mirandize you. Miranda is only for self incrimination.


  29. NoVA Scout


    It IS a little embarrassing to have my party putting out this kind of stuff. One wants to assume that people understand the difference between short-term weather and long-term climate issues. I just get a little uneasy thinking that maybe folks don’t realize that this is nonsense. If everyone’s in on the joke and no one takes the RPV seriously, then I guess it’s OK. I just wouldn’t want Republicans to seem silly or stupid.


  30. Buffy


    Barbara Munsey: If you don’t believe that mother nature is fragile, you should read about how polluted the Chesapeake Bay has become in recent years, and that the current number of oysters is about 1% of what it once was. There already are plenty of examples of what a severe impact humans can have on our environment. Unfortunately, some of us will not believe in reducing our environmental footprint until it is too late. How’s that for an argument? I think I just slayed a vampire…


  31. Barbara Munsey


    Buffy, if you DO believe that nature is fragile, I invite you to reduce your carbon footprint by living outside with no heat on the cool silky breat of our Mother the Earth during this tiny little snow event.

    Don’t eat any meat, or in fact anything but fresh locally grown organic vegetables, because anything else has too selfish and socially unjust an impact.

    Nothing is in season right now?

    Oops. Too bad.

    Oh, well, since Nature is so fragil I’m sure you’ll be fine.

    As to the Chesapeake and the oysters, you DO know that one of the things that brought them to their “current state” (more on that in a bit) is the multimillion dollar tax funded artificial reef project of about twenty years ago, designed by committee and no doubt computer model to bring them back from the brink.

    One problem: the design of the superexpensive supersmart ecoganically correct supports only allowed the spat to attach to them horizontally–with the result that silt naturally settling on the (yes) fragile shells weighted them down and most suffocated.

    As to how many there are, are they counting the millions that are thriving on the rip rap fronting some of the bay developments?

    See, the multifacted surfaces of the rocks allow the spat to attach however seems best to them, with the result that in some eastern shore rivers they are thriving.

    But you see, they don’t really COUNT because they are just there on the rip rap, and not part of some vastly expensive intervention, and to my knowledge no one has STUDIED them yet to see if they are safe to eat, and so on.

    So OFFICIALLY yes, I’m 100% sure that you believe absolutely every talking point you’re spitting out (by the way, how did we get from AGW to the need to pass the Chesapeake initiatives–sorry, my bad. Logic! lol)

    In the meantime, you let me know how it goes with coexisting with FRAGILE Nature over the next few days. No electricity! It’s bad. No heat! The planet is already warming. And absolutely no food but what you can gather from the current boutny of Our Mother.

    Let me know, sweetie.


  32. Yawn


    It shocks me how uneducated some in this echo chamber are. …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxguE_RS7Iw


  33. Barbara Munsey


    I doubt that, Yawn. It’s hard to be shocked when gripped with that ole time religion.

    Two things:

    *I got all the questions right. (As a product of Catholic education, I am always interested in the study of comparative religion).

    *National Wildlife Federation? No agenda there! Kind of like Pachauri and IPCC putting major statements of supposed peer-reviewed “fact” in AR4 from WWF solicitation glossies. And unpublished student dissertations. And retracted unchecked secondhand interviews. And opinions from mountainclimbing mags. Gives “peer review” a whole new meaning, of the lowest common denominator.

    Take a moment out from proselityzing, and head on out to the woods. Dig a nest (with your hands, gently) and curl up with a good thermal lining of leaves in a snow cave, and clutch your edible bark.

    Let me know how it turns out in all the effects of “fragility”.


  34. Cato the Elder


    “It shocks me how uneducated some in this echo chamber are.”
    *
    What’s really shocking is the degree of intellectual dishonesty progressives are willing to employ to keep the AGW gravy train running. You guys need to find a new scam to latch on to open up new sources of revenue and enhancement of regulatory authority to grow the bureaucracy, because the wheels are coming off this one. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2010/02/03/IPCC-chief-admits-his-body-is-damaged/UPI-15301265238145/


  35. Buffy


    Believe it or not, Barbara, I continue to use heat and electricity. However, I do what I can to conserve and minimize my impact on the environment. I also support regulating businesses to minimize their impact on the environment. I’m sure these are not popular ideas with you and some others who frequent this blog though.


  36. Barbara Munsey


    Buffy, why be sure?

    (Answer: because it fits your preconceived worldview. So much more comfortable to be sanctimoniously righteous, eh? “Onward, Eco-So-O-oldiers!” lol)

    BTW, heat and electricity harm fragile nature, don’t they?

    Why, Buffy, WHY? WHY are you using things which harm FRAGILE NATURE??!!!




  37. Barbara, you have no preconceived worldview?


  38. Barbara Munsey


    A few, but not that everyone who reads here thinks conserving energy is a bad idea, or that businesses etc should be held accountable to best practices, and so on.

    I don’t believe everyone who is concerned with not wasting, being clean and efficient is automatically an eco fascist, but it appears Buffy may hold the opposite to be true.

    My preconceived notions are that supply and demand exist, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, that the sky is blue, that water is wet (and does not magically disappear after it’s precipitated and been used), and that yes, a sucker is probably born every minute.

    Hope you are surviving the snow well, edmund.




  39. As we all know, frozen water isn’t wet. Lately, it piles up quite a bit around here.
    .
    Maybe an object lesson can be found there for both you and Buffy: that what we observe and hold to be truisms are usually a matter of perspective. Change your perspective, and your truisms become more fragile.
    .
    I hope you too, are faring well in the snow, Barbara.


  40. Barbara Munsey


    I think we’re okay.

    The subdivision roads are passable, no milk in the stores yesterday, but stores are open!

    Neighbors are all communally digging out again and again after the plows, soup is on the stove and GOOD.

    The only complaint I can really think of (besides the plows thinking the path we keep shovelling open at the handicapped ramp is the PERFECT PLACE prepared JUST FOR THEM to pile snow in–at night, when no one is looking) is the bunny who lives under the azaleas keeps coming up on the edge of the porch to trim the weeping needleleaf Japanese maples, which drives the dog ballistic, and so on–lolol

    No major cabin fever (yet).


  41. Barbara Munsey


    New article at Watts Up With That:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/09/hansen-colleague-rejected-ipcc-ar4-es-as-having-no-scientific-merit-but-what-does-ipcc-do/

    Science should not equal politics, but apparently with this religion (and economic scam with carbon trading) it has become so at the UN.

    Rather, it has apparently BEEN so, and thanks to the widening crack in the wall beginning with the leak of the Hadley emails, it is now becoming documented that it was so.


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