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Feb 09th by Loudoun Insider
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PERFECT picture.
I Goggle Image searched “pulling out hair” and this was the most effective one in my opinion!
Having spent better part of three days reclaiming my driveway….I FULLY intend on holding that ground. I will be out EVERY three inches pushing snow till it’s done.
Great. Maybe school will be cancelled all next week and the LCPS employees can extend their vacation to 2 weeks!
Yeah !
Bring it on! This one sounds whimpy.
For all you school haters and those without children, this provides insight into what it takes to re-open our schools after this massive storm(s).
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Letter from Loudoun County Public Schools Superintendent
ALL LOUDOUN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS CLOSED THROUGH FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 12th
A message about school closing from the superintendent:
All Loudoun County Public Schools will continue to be closed for Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, February 10-12, 2010. This closure includes school activities, practices, and other uses of school buildings. The decision to close is made because of the severity of the snow we already received. It will probably take until Sunday to dig out our 770 buses and make them trip worthy. We are working as fast as possible to open school parking lots and clear walkways on campuses. In the meantime we appreciate the work being done by VDOT, Loudoun’s towns, and homeowner associations to open up secondary roads and community streets. In order for buses to use these streets they must have more than single lane passage, and intersections must be sufficiently cleared to allow for turning.
As we prepare to re-open schools on Tuesday, February 16, the day after the scheduled President’s Day holiday, we will need additional help from Loudoun’s citizens in clearing sidewalks for the more than 20,000 students who walk to and from school each day. We also are counting on community assistance to clear bus stops for students to wait to board buses.
Decisions about opening schools are always made with student safety first and foremost, both for walkers and bus riders. It is likely that some neighborhoods will open up before others, but our ability to staff schools and get students safely to their schools involves more than just a neighborhood area.
We appreciate all of the support Loudoun’s parents and citizens will give to helping us get back to school. Please remember to be safe, particularly as young people and others start to walk in streets because sidewalks are not uncovered. Having pedestrian and vehicular traffic on the roads at the same time creates a very dangerous situation.
Thank you again for your understanding and assistance as we deal with the worst snow storm in many years.
Edgar B. Hatrick
Superintendent
Sigh.
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I’m sure this snow will allow Hatrick to ask for $2.4 million in high tech de-icers for the bus fleet and $8.3 million for underground heating systems for the ball fields in next year’s budget request.
I agree on the school closings, so the reasoning is sound imho. However, I can see how Hatrick could use this snow to his advantage for illegimate equipment and/or manpower.
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This puts me in the weird and waacky position of agreeing with both Blackout and Eddie – so indeed this is a sign of another snowpocalypse. Batten down the hatches!
See what happens when we listen to Al Gore?
As if…
Did he have a Glow Bull Warming Conference in Washington this week? That would explain all of this!
Dean, I think it’s because McGimsey got her Energy Plan passed.
She solved Global Warming in Loudoun, and that’s where all this snow came from.
tee hee
I thought of you when I ran the Jolly Rogers up at the corner! Good luck with your driveway–I am equally adamant about that corner ramp.
I’m sleeping in spurts thru the day, so I’m well rested at 0300, for the counteroffensive!
Monk, You’re pulling a Kramer, 20 minutes of sleep every 3 hours? Watch out or you may find yourself in the Potomac!
Wow, it is now snowing REALLY HARD out here. Short Hill mountain, behind my house, has disappeared. And so it begins……………..again…………………
Nothing happening here yet, but we are about as far southeast as you are northwest.
Thog bring home much chicken and beef.
Deee-e-e-e-eeep breath!
It’s only flurries out here so far. Hopefully it stays this way.
Just began here a bit ago–very fine, but constant.
FYI, before all the belly acking starts about teachers getting a ride on days off.
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LOUDOUN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
Message sent – 2/9/2010
LCPS Does Not Alter Calendar for Snow Days
Loudoun County Public Schools doesn’t have snow days.
Here is the reason why:
The Commonwealth of Virginia requires that schools provide a minimum 990 hours of instructional time each school year with each school day being at least 5.5 hours in length. School divisions are required to have a plan for making up a total of 15 days missed because of bad weather or other emergencies.
For 2009-2010, Loudoun County Public Schools will operate on a 180-day instructional calendar. Because the length of the instructional day in LCPS exceeds the 5.5 hour minimum, the 15 required are covered in the established school calendar.
Loudoun County has had this policy governing the calendar since 1990. The fixed calendar means that days missed for inclement weather will not cause truncated vacations, Saturday classes, lengthened school days, or changes in graduation dates.
Families are able to set their calendars a full year ahead around the fixed dates.
Snow starting to sputter here in Ashburn. We’re ready to rock!!
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Welded up the broken shovels, and the snow blower has new sheer pins installed. Give us your best short, mother nature. If the last one didn’t break our back this one has no chance.
Mr. BlackOut, may your back be as strong as your spirit of defiance to the mother of nature. Ravi is looking forward to the gail force winds tomorrow. Nothing is like standing in the wind and feeling the cold sting of the snow biting ones face at 40 MPH. If you ever feel sad, this is a certain cure, I am sure of it. Everytime I have tried it I have ended up feeling more alive and much less dead. Also, as they say where I am from, “Watch out where the huskies go do not eat the yellow snow”. The yellow snow is very bad. Very bad indeed.
The Safeway store roof may be deemed unsafe in the broadlands \. maybe our aircraft controller who is county planning commissioner can fix it. His background perhaps makes him a expert in theses areas.
Nothing like a little Zappa to get us going! Do you own a Sears poncho or a real poncho, Ravi?
Can’t argue with this.
Blackout – Taxpayers pay way too much money for a bloated school budget to accept the state minimum. I’m all in favor of canceling spring break to make up for this snow break.
It’s coming down pretty hard out front right now; Sterling is definitely the city of tiny lights.
I agree this post is about the recent and pending snow. However I just read the minutes and report regarding the Feb 1-2 BOS meetings. There was a request from McGimsey to Hemstreet requesting what staff was doing on the Green Business Challenge, staffing, budgets projects voted on, EPA Pilot Training for construction companies retrofit, etc. Also re Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grant. How much of the proposed $1.40 rate is all this garbage!!!! What a real SNOW job.
Mr. James, Ravi will not argue with you. You may call me “this” if it is what you wish or you may call me “it”. Ravi will still not argue with you. You may call me many names, but Ravi will still not argue with you. As Mr. Ben Frankalin once said, “Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do”.
Mr. LI, Ravi has a brother named Pancho, but no poncho. As you say though, Ravi does have a nice hat like Mr. Joe.
Mr. Ben Frankalin was one of my favorite histororical figayures, Mr. Oli, so I believe you and I must have much in commomon, least of which is the ol’ Mendocino beano.
John M, get a load of this:
http://www.germany.info/Vertretung/usa/en/__PR/TCB/2010/01/TCB__AnniversaryEvent__S,archiveCtx=2098216.html
The paragraphs that really pinged me were:
” Germany’s relationship with Virginia was further strengthened by a workshop hosted by the German Embassy and the Northern Virginia Regional Commission entitled „Developing and Implementing a Community Energy Plan for Northern Virginia”. This lead to Loudon County, Virginia, passing the first ever Community Energy Plan (CEP) in the US, which in turn has generated interest among several other counties in Virginia. Loudon County’s CEP could serve as a blueprint for counties, regions, and states throughout the US.
Andrea McGimsey, Chair of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors’ Energy Efficiency Committee, who was instrumental in the passing of her county’s Community Energy Plan, is a strong believer in transatlantic exchange:
“…there is much to be done, and the issues are urgent. It is important that we move in the right, most efficient directions in Virginia and across the states. The lessons Germany has already learned can help us move more quickly in the right direction.” ”
The very first energy PLAN in the whole US. Not a strategy. Not a grant request. The first energy PLAN in the country.
Puts those trips to Germany, that I always thought were maybe visiting relatives as she’s mentioned her mom is German, into a slightly different perspective perhaps.
(Sally, please don’t tell me she put in for mileage to Germany! lol)
I wonder myself what’s in there for all of that, especially since one of her former bosses addressed the Board the night beofre they passed it, to stress that they needed to FUND it and HIRE STAFF to implement it or it was worthless.
Worse than a snow job, I think.
Here’s another little blip from germany.info:
http://www.germany.info/Vertretung/usa/en/09__Press__InFocus__Interviews/03__Infocus/03__ClimateBridge/Features/F3/ClimateTrip__June09__quotes.html
How Ms. McG felt about going to Germany to help build transatlantic climate bridges.
As I said to Dean, since she’s solved global warming right here at home with the very first plan in the whole country, THAT’S where all the damn snow is coming from!
In my opinion this lady is totally outside of any hope of being within the ethical standards adopted by this BOS and conflicts of interest. Has Mr. Roberts been asked for his opinion? Has he presented one? At $1.40, if this board thinks that is in any way reasonable in this economy they need to be replaced along with the county attorney who allows these kinds of self serving activities. There are those on this board that think a 10% increase in overall real estate taxes would be ok and needed for all of the county programs. I would encourage everyone to contact their board members and attend the budget hearings to demand fiscal sanity and responsibility. In my thirty years in Loudoun, the pragmatic self reliaent philosophy that was always prevalent has finally been destroyed!!
Uh, Ravi, I was talking about the post in chief. Not any irrelevant comments appended thereto.
[...] This post at TC morphed into a tableau for Zappa references which got me to thinking: “Hey, I can do that.” Maybe I can’t do much else, but I can definitely do that. So without further ado: [...]
Here is a observation. The counties and cities that restrict roof heights Like Loudoun and Fairfax especially when the roof does not black a view must be rethinking. The steeper the roof the less chance of collapse. Last night on the news some one was advising people to people to sleep on the lower floors to help in the event of a collapse. Put up a big steep roof and less of a chance of collapse in snow.
i meant “”"”"block”"”"”a view in the above
Blizzard conditions this morning with the wind kicking up in the last hour. Roads are not bad, but visibility is very poor. There will probably be lots of cars running off the road.
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John – Speaking of snow jobs, Hatrick has produced an infomercial to sell his FY11 budget: http://cmsweb1.loudoun.k12.va.us/loudoun/lib/loudoun/BudgetWMV.wmv
I have it on good authority from the cousin of my neighbor who knows a lawyer for the County that two days ago, McGimsey rented an airplane at the Butler County, Ohio (that’s HAO for the growing throng of FAA/ATC groupies here). She loaded the plane with Magnesium Salts, provided by Ed Hatrick and one of his nefarious (and under-employed) science teachers. The kids won’t make it through the curriculum to the lab that includes those salts anyway…
She flew 3 sorties seeding the clouds that comprise this storm. She was then flown home in a black helicopter, formerly used to transport some of Eugene’s most ardent foes. I’ll have to check with Sally, but I think it was paid for by out of the slush fund comprised of FOIA fees…Same helo may have occasionally circled some of y’all’s homes too.
So, yes, you should blame her for this…
Thanks BS. I’ll add it to the dossier.
(sarcasm off)
Glad you see no problem whatsoever with international credentialing on an apparent CPAM w/o due process. Some people really DON’T get it, and that’s okay, it’s probably really not your fault.
On a lighter note, I guess it would be standard formula now to say, “He-e-e-eyyyy, Bla-a-a-a-azzze, it’s a JOKE, maaaaannnnnn! Don’t you, like, GET IT? Wowww, CHILLLLLLLLLL! She’s, like, so into Global Warming? That, like, I said, she was, like, causing the snow? By, like, being so INTO Global Warming? Wowwww, I though progressives had a, like, sense of HUMOR? Wowwwww.”
Why is Germany writing articles about the very first energy plan in the entire USA having been passed here, by her?
Especially since the whole dismissal was that is was just a STRATEGY to get a GRANT?
BOTH doors drifted here, north and south. But the overall accumulation doesn’t look bad (after the last round! lol)
I have a great sense of humor. I find you all hysterical.
And please don’t call me a progressive. I’m an NRA lifer, a free marketeer, and drive a big gas guzzling truck. I just happen to enjoy watching y’all come unhinged…
Whatever, BNS. McGimsey is the worst hypocrite I’ve ever seen. Period.
Back to the weather – it sure does SUCK! My trip to get the paper (surprised it came!) was quite difficult. Major drifting out there and sideways snow.
Sorry BS, but if you are going to pop up and defend McG at every whiff of mention, and she is about as progressive as they come, well–you know what they say about dogs and fleas, or is that a one way street too? lol
Some papers here, ours hasn’t shown yet though. Either under a drift or under a car. It’ll turn up.
Sideways snow here too, and the plows are busy–pushing crap back into my blasted-through tunnel snow mountain project at the corner–lolol. I’ll get my exercise today too!
Wow, it is ridiculously windy out there now. Almost white out conditions here in Fairfax. It came out of nowhere too…things were calm just twenty minutes ago.
Had the smow on the run out here, and driveway was clear right up until the 35 MPH winds–and 40 MPH gusts.Filled the driveway up at a low spot between my passes. Went out, got groceries last night….so I’ll just chill today and attack it tomorrow after the winds die off. State road has a particularly nasty trough in it anyway, and I gaurantee that what is 40″ on top of that cut is easily 85″ inside the cut. We’ll need a little bit more than a tractor to move that.
It’s rather pretty looking from here inside, as long as the power doesn’t go out and the roof doesn’t crash in.
My neighbor was out on his porch roof with a push broom yesterday–he had drifts plus upper-roof glacier calving–and he spent the better part of half an hour clearing that bad section, just in case.
His kids and dogs loved it–MUCH excitement with Dad on the ROOF! In the SNOW!
The roofs here don’t seem too bad (touch wood), because everything has blown so much it doesn’t seem to be piling up there as badly.
Dean, best to you on the driveway. My Jolly Rogers are still fluttering bravely at the corner, and so far it doesn’t look like I’ll have to cut so much to clear the icecrud hallway there again.
If I had photos, you guys could have made a fortune on dartboard graphics:
At one point, I was placing the garden spade at face height, and then putting my foot on it (yes, I still can do that! lol) and leaning in to cut the next block for removal.
Dressed in layers of sweatsuit, LLBean, and topped with my mad bomber rabbit fur (gift from Thog) and leopard print mittens, I’m sure it would have done well as an OMG/throw darts at it novelty.
Stay safe all!
I’m with BlackOut on this one–we’re ready, we’re strong, the neighborhood will survive!
As Roberto Duran once said,” No Mas “.
Just got back from a trip out, my wife needed to get to physical therapy. It’s bad out. White out conditions come and go and are unpredictable. The roads for the most part are clear and recently plowed, at least one lane. I’d guess we have somewhere around 6 to 7 inches of new snow, hard to tell with snow drifting. Lots and lots of pick-up/snow plows out and about. Most stores are closed. McD’s in Ashburn Farm was open and the Giant across from it was open. Drove through Ashburn Village. Everything closed except gas stations, 7-11’s, and Harris Teeter.
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Definitely not interested in trucking out again. And certainly not for great distances.
Although still snowing and intermittently blowing, the sun is actually visible here!
Yellow spot is sky, just barely hard to look at!
Gateway Pundit has a global warming sign contest–make a sign, get it on tv, and win up to $10,000!
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/
Sally, my daughter has been wearing her Cafe Press favorite sweatshirt around the house:
Al Gore in a Carmen Miranda headdress, bearing the legend “An Inconvenient Fruit”
BM Now that”s funny!!
We like it John!
Just in (6:20) from neighborhood communal beer after much snow blowing, digging etc.
All driveways clear, all cars cleared off, all paths in the ant farm reopened.
Snow warriors rule!
Tomorrow, Icy Hot will probably rule–ouch! lol
Inhofe Family Builds Igloo ‘Gore’s New Home’
The family of Sen. Jim Inhofe, a vocal skeptic regarding man-made global warming, had some fun at climate change crusader Al Gore’s expense by building an igloo near the U.S. Capitol.
The Oklahoma Republican’s daughter Molly Rapert, along with her husband and four children, built the igloo over the weekend as Washington was hammered with a fierce blizzard.
The family posted a cardboard sign on the igloo’s roof reading “AL GORE’S NEW HOME” on one side and “HONK IF YOU [HEART] GLOBAL WARMING” on the other.
Sen. Inhofe, the ranking Republican on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, told Roll Call newspaper that his family’s ironic tribute to Gore was “really humorous.”
The senator even posted several photos of the igloo on his Facebook page.
The crazy weatherman is back:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5f9_1265832426
OK, I don’t mean to hijack the thread, let’s just choke this up to the snow causing cabin fever.
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Absolutely unbelievable photos of the world trade center:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249885/New-World-Trade-Center-9-11-aerial-images-ABC-News.html
>>>Al Gore in a Carmen Miranda headdress, bearing the legend “An Inconvenient Fruit”<<<
That really did make me laugh out loud. Thanks for the laugh of the day! That image is priceless.
It appears to still be available on a mug:
http://www.cafepress.com/+al_gore_inconvenient_mug,68999382
She wears it to school sometimes, but not on science days.
p.s. to lovettsville lady–you’re welcome!
lolol
Assessed the damage out here once it stopped accumulation. I’m going to be one very busy fellow in bursts today, and all day tomorrow once the winds stop. I have 90 feet of roof that has just over 3 feet of packed snow on it.
I just got back in from attacking it with a rake to remove about a 1/4 of the snow from up there. I cannot risk getting “snow showers” on Monday that materialize into what these did.
The driveway is under mostly 3 feet of snow, where it blew across the tops of the once-removed-now-back-where-it-came-from snow. But there are a couple of sections in the driveway that are about 100 feet long, and were chiseled out of a 3 foot rise, and they are now filled in with that three foot, plus the three feet atop of the hill that blew over them….for a total of 6 feet.
The top of the tractor hood is at 5 feet.
And after all of this digging out, there’s more snow coming in Monday!!
For Barbara and other climate change denialists.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-10-2010/unusually-large-snowstorm
Dean, all the best to you. I am celebrating my small victory in chiseling out the path again. Garden spade to cut, then HEAVE! lol
Yawn, I don’t deny the climate changes. It’s been doing that naturally for 4.5 billion years, give or take a million here and there.
What I deny wholeheartedly is the idea that reducing our standard of living until we can’t begin to afford to cope with things like the weather (let alone moving around and having some semblance of an economy beyond cottage industry hunter/gathering) and giving all of our money to hypocritical unscrupulous huckstering asses like Gore, Pachauri et al will allow us to control the weather after we’re dead. (Reach out and TOUCH the television, and SENDMEALLYOURMONEYRIGHTAWAY and don’t you KNOW the PLANET will be HEALED!!!! AMEN!!! rotflmao)
We can’t do JACK about the climate, honey. That’s in the hands of FRAGILE NATURE, which, as you may or may not have noticed in the past few days, does whatever she damn well pleases whenever she damn well pleases.
Capisce?
Barbara, do you include the hippies at NASA in your list of hucksters?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/science/earth/22warming.html
From the link:
James E. Hansen, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said that global temperatures varied because of changes in ocean heating and cooling cycles. “When we average temperature over 5 or 10 years to minimize that variability,” said Dr. Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists, “we find global warming is continuing unabated.”
A separate preliminary analysis from the National Climatic Data Center, a unit of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, found that 2009 tied with 2006 as the fifth warmest year on record, based on measurements taken on land and at sea. The data center report, published earlier this week, also cited the years 2000 to 2009 as the warmest decade ever measured. The new temperature figures provide evidence in the scientific discussion of global warming but are not likely to be the last word on whether the planet’s temperature is on a consistent upward path.
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No one is suggesting that you reduce your standard of living but instead we can work to find cleaner, more efficient and renewable sources of energy. We can do something about the climate, honey. But you’re from the party of no we can’t, so there’s probably no sense in arguing.
Yawn,
Yeah and NASA also said 2003? (I think) was the warmest year on record and were WRONG. It was 1934 as warmest on record. Hansen is also a climate whore just like the East Anglia folks are. Even you point out it is how you average the data, pick the correct years, group to show the trend? Give me a break. Science does not work that way. You must think an awful lot of yourself if you think man can/is controlling the world’s climate.
John, I’m highly disappointed you’re part of the hyper-partisan GOP effort to ignore science in an attempt to appease coal companies. I expect such a thing from Barbara Munsey, but thought you had a little more self respect.
I don’t know why I’m surprised at what I read here. You folks support the likes of Sarah Palin!
Yawn, Hansen is another Climategate casualty, fed with tax dollars to pump a political religion.
Who said we shouldn’t be clean, more efficient, waste less?
Carbon trading is just the next big bubble, and most likely the one that will finally kill us.
I find it amazing that the ONE thing that defines “organic” is carbon, we all breathe it out, anything green breathes it in, and it has become a religious taboo (for the religious elite to get rich on.
You’re trolling with straw bait. What, are you still stuck in the evil indoors from the action of Fragile Nature, and what we’re seeing here is progressive cabin fever?
Pretty amusing video, from Vikings fans: Frozen Wasteland, to the tune of Teenage Wasteland…
http://minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2010/02/frozen-wasteland.html
Sally – that was hilarious!
Barbara, yep, you’re right, everyone is bought and paid for. No one could view climate change as a national security threat. Nope. Everyone gets their checks.
Just like you have received plenty of checks from Greenvest over the years to spend time at your computer and spin relentlessly on their behalf. And your anti climate change rants are funded by Holtzman Oil.
Yawn, your nic is perfect for you! You are such a bore.
For the first time, I am snowed in! Huge drifts on Householder road have prevented the plows from coming through. The roads behind us are also blocked by drifts so a few hundred houses are on an island, no way in or out! People in our neighborhood are concerned about several very elderly families. If they need an ambulance, they are out of luck. There is no way in or out. Tomorrow we’re hiring our someone with a backhoe or Bobcat to come get us out. VDOT hires lots of people out here with plows, but it appears they’re light on Bobcats. Oh well, lots of folks in Fairfax have already had to hire Bobcats to dig them out and this is a first for our area. So we can’t complain.
Yawn, you really are getting desperately silly if you’re pumping the old “paid by evil developers” one. That is not quite as far out there as that I am paid to promote coal plants (?) or some of the others, but alas for you, equally false.
So, I guess I can conclude that the German article is correct? McGimsey does now have an international credential as the only person in the US to get an energy plan passed for Copenhagen?
Keep trolling hon.
Or rather, projecting.
Yawn,
I am not part of any hyper-partisan thing at all. I happen to be an engineer with multiple patents for designs used in recycling waste materials. I do fully understand scientific principle and can develop and understand technical positions on my own without any hyperbole or group think ideology. I would suggest that the side of “Global Warming” is more the other. Oh and you say this is National Security, but it is “Global Response” that is needed. BS it is just to feed the one world fanatics, that’s why all the liberals love/embrace it. Incrementalism! My position has nothing to do with appeasing the coal companies (many of whom are why you are warm now) I just know that the true scientific data has been jiggered.
Barbara your hypocrisy is showing. Your baseless accusations are apparently substantive but yawn’s are silly. Truth is both sets of accusations are unfounded.
Not both, xyz.
You climate pimps would get a lot more traction if you abandoned your quixotic quest to run a derivatives trading scam based on CO2 credits. If your argument was about renewable energy and becoming a net exporter of energy, that’s something everyone can agree on.
Cato, what I always find amusing is that none of these cap and trade folks realize (or at least are willing to admit) that the whole concept of carbon dioxide cap and trade was developed in large part by Ken Lay and Enron.
xyz, Barbara’s hypocrisy was sort of my point.
Cato, no one in this thread has discussed a cap and trade program except the climate change denialists. That’s a different argument. With the likes of Barbara Inhoffe Munsey we’re still stuck on the is science real argument.
Yawn, as someone who is paying your salary, I must insist (again) that you get to work and get off of the blogs with this horseshit. The concept, no matter how much you love it for pumping up your resume (with the other dipshits)is flat. Finished and over. Global Warming? Yes. As John reminds us all — 4.3 Million Years(in heating and cooling cycles)
What we haven’t found are the remnants of the dinosaur’s SUVs , and not a trace of their coal-burning furnaces from their bout with global warming 2 million years ago..
Yawn, I don’t think most folks here are going to deny that climate change is happening. Clearly, with the weather trends we’ve been seeing, something is going on.
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The issue, however, isn’t whether climate change is happening (frankly, it’s always happening). The question is two-fold. (1) Is it primarily man made and (2) is there anything we can do about it?
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I think the science is out on both of those questions and I think that’s where most people on my side of the aisle get angry. It seems as if the climatologists have spent all their time trying to determine if climate change is happening, and once they’ve done that (and I think they have), they make the assumption that it’s both man made and that they know how to stop it. Neither of those assumptions are proven.
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A lot of “deniers” also are skeptical of the people who are pushing this climate change business. Many of these same people are the same old leftists (I won’t say liberals, because many of them are far to the left even the most rabid American liberal) who have been unable to get their social justice agenda through any other way, and see climate change as the best vehicle to do that.
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In every other area of American political life, we are told to be skeptics. Don’t trust what the government tells you. Don’t believe everything you read in the papers. The Bush Administration lied to get us into Iraq. Congress is full of crooks who make backroom deals with fat cat lobbyists to get rich and make their friends rich, all on the public dime. We are told daily to be skeptical. Yet when confronted with an issue like climate change, where the potential “solutions” involve a drastic change in the way of life for billions, we’re supposed to leave all that skepticism at the door, not ask who will make money off this, not ask if the science is accurate, not ask if there hidden agendas. We’re just supposed to bob our heads like geese and move along. Well, unfortunately, that’s not going to happen.
Brian
A perfect end to this thread!!
Had an emergency yesterday with the local Glow bull Warming. My lower pasture run-in shed snapped an 8×8 header in two and the roof dropped. We rapidly (wife can shovel snow like an ox at 53!!) evacuated the offending 3.5 feet of snow blocks and jacked it back up . I had to scrounge thru the snow (again with the 4 feet of glow bull warming) for another 8×8 and haul it down to the lower pasture and install it. We’re back up and no horses were injured in the incident. My back may be awhile, however.
Today, with the wind diminishing, it’s clear the 1400 feet of driveway….again. But this time it’s 4 and 5 feet blown in.
“they make the assumption that it’s both man made and that they know how to stop it.”
Brian, let me stop you right there. We’ve known how to harness the weather for some time now. Witness New Orleans and more recently, Haiti. Chavez has said it!!
Yawn, now I’m James Inhofe?
Thank you! I can’t really claim the honor, but he’s quite a guy.
If I am the biggest devil here (now that I am a US Senator in drag, an oil company, coal companies, etc–I’m sure I missed a few–should I start my own sock puppet called Legion?), then that tells me this is the usual little bunch of true believers hating on me for being so so mean to poor poor Andrea (although, as she does not disclose much, we don’t really know how poor she is from using her government position, do we? lol).
It’s personal for you, isn’t it?
That’s why you have no logic to hang your angst on.
p.s. to yawner–you might try reading the Brit press occasionally.
That science we were ordered was “settled”?
It’s unravelling by the day on AR4, with more and more doomsday “facts” proved to be nothing more than unvetted lobbyist advertising.
Kind of like McG’s history with Sidewalks and Cyberspace–lolol
The recent global outlook from China to France (with brand new glaciers!!) and many other portions of the earth that ought to be melting, but are actually reconstituting ice shelf at twice the rate they used to 6 years ago…it’s all unraveling the “big lie”.
As Cato points out….it’s all about “wno wants to make some money?” on a much larger scale than Andrea’s bone-headedness.
Anyone who honestly still clings to the concept that man is doing anything is a demonstrated idiot at this point, and pretty much all for displaying it in front of everybody. If I were them, I’d stay anonymous, too. I’d be ashamed to show my face after I had spouted some of the stupidity seen in this thread trying to defend the indefensible.