McDonnell and Bolling – Completely Clueless or Poorly Served By Staff?

By Loudoun Insider

Bob McDonnell has made more than a few easily avoidable boneheaded mistakes so far as Governor.  Bill Bolling hasn’t been so inept publicly, but of course doesn’t have the level of exposure and responsibility.

 

So why did they go for broke in endorsing Scott Rigell in the 2nd CD, a guy who gave $1,000 each to Mark Warner and Barack Obama (details in this BVBL post)???  We all know there is a growing rift between these two and Cuccinelli for control of the party, and while Cuccinelli has been very active in getting involved in intra-party contests, McD and B have been reticent.  Except for getting behind this Rigell guy, with a donation history any Dem candidate would be proud of (all while avoiding important races for the future like the 10th District debacle awaiting us). 

 

Now you know I am no party puritan, but this is simply a stupid stupid move for McDonnell and especially for Bolling.  If he had any hopes of holding off Cuccinelli in 2013, this seals the deal for Cooch.  Did they know this donation history and chose to ignore it?  Or did their staff simply do no vetting of this guy?  For their political futures’ sakes some heads should roll


Comments

  • LI, I’m surpirsed you aren’t a Riggell fan boy. I’m no Riggell supporter, far from it. You’re a little late to the game on this one though, this story is really old and Riggell has handled it remarkably well. I don’t see this as a fatal move from the Governor. I think Riggell is an idiot, RINO and traitor to the party but he has solid support amongst conservatives in the 2nd.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    I haven’t paid much attention to the 2nd CD, sorry. More at Bearing Drift, especially in comments on this post:
    http://bearingdrift.com/2010/05/18/will-a-party-loyalty-litmus-test-bite-rigellgoode/
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    In wondering why the McDonnell folks haven’t been more involved here, someone pointed me in this direction. This is definitely one more thing for the Coochies to bang Bolling over the head with.

  • Brian S says:

    LI, go over to VPAP and take a look at Rigell’s giving history. He’s given a ton of money to Republicans – over $180,000, including $65k to McDonnell’s AG race, $15k to the inauguration, $2k to his gubernatorial campaign and $10k to his Delegate campaign. He’s been with McDonnell a long, long time.
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    He’s also given money to both sides in a number of races – including giving $2500 to John Brownlee for his Attorney General race and then turning around to give Cuccinelli $8600 for his AG race.
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    Federally, he’s given over $100k to Republican candidates. The $1k to Obama – which was for the primary, not the general – is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of the money he’s given. And seeing as how it could only be used for the primary, it certainly didn’t hurt McCain or our efforts in the fall. I think it’s easy to believe that, knowing only what we knew in early 2008, Obama probably appeared to be a better choice than Hillary did.
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    I don’t think the contribution, alone, says much about whether he’s a “traitor” or a “RINO.” I know nothing about the man personally and have only been obliquely paying attention to the race, but if that’s the only thing that’s got folks calling him a turncoat, it’s really grasping at straws. He gives over a quarter of a million bucks to Republicans and is getting attacked for $1k to one Democrat?

  • DJ Spiker says:

    LI, you’re better left sticking to issues in the 8th, 10th and 11th and leaving issues in the 2nd to us in Hampton Roads.

    Rigell and Bob McDonnell have been friends for twenty years, Rigell helped encourage Bob to run for delegate for the first time, and knocked on doors repeatedly for him throughout. Their families grew up together and still keep in touch. Rigell has given over $400,000 to Republican candidates, including a maxed out donor to Romney and McCain, and had been recruited locally to run for office for the last fifteen years and rebuffed them each time.

    While the Obama check is an issue (the check to Mark Warner was made from his corporation to Warner’s inaugural committee, I believe as a sponsor) Rigell is a Regent University graduate, liftime NRA member, 100% pro-life/family values running on a fiscal responsibility and accountability platform. For fifteen years he’s been too far to the right to run, according to VB leaders, now he’s a RINO? Hell no.

    Rigell has to account for a donation or two, sure, but to blame Bob McDonnell or grasping at conspiracy theories is something we should be leaving to the Catherine Crabill’s of the party.

    That being said, there’s a strong slate of candidates, stronger then any other district in the Commonwealth that the 2nd would be lucky to have represent them. Any one of them would be a great representative for the Party and the district, including Scott Rigell.

  • Dan says:

    Maybe they thought it was Rob Riggle they were supporting. He’s an ex Marine (yeah, yeah, I know! No such thing. Once a Marine always a Marine. Freakin’ jarheads) and would therefore be a good fit in the 2nd.
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    Riggle would surely give us a much more amusing campaign.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    My main point here is that they are nowhere to be seen in many contests where their presence would help keep the party somewhat on track. If they want to sit by the wayside, then they shouldn’t expect the people they abandon to come running to their rescue later. What other intra-party contests have McD and B been involved in like this? And BFD if Rigell is BFFs with McDonnell, his donations matter, hell that would be enough to get him kicked out of the upcoming 10th District Convention! Or is it OK because he has the Farris endorsement???

  • “Cuccinelli has been very active in getting involved in intra-party contests”…biggest load of BS…KC didn’t endorse anybody in his home senate seat…

  • Brian S says:

    He’s endorsed folks in the LCRC Chairman race, the 10th Congressional District Chairman race and the 11th District Congressional primary. I think three endorsements in intra-party fights is sufficient to guard against a “BS” call.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    The comparison of the 1k vs 250K (or 400k?) seems insignificant, particularly if one is a donation to an inaugural committee.
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    What I think is happening with this post (and Bearing drift, bvbl, ect) is a bit of a set up for ANYONE from the KC camp that brings this up in 2012 as one reason Bolling is the inferior candidate. I’m not sure why anyone wants to go there now, except to continually stir it up and agitate. I suspect this link and others will pulled out in 18 months with an “AH – HA!” I can’t wait.

  • VA Blogger says:

    LI, I think it’s exceedingly difficult to compare the 10th District m.o. with the 2nd District (or any other, for that matter).
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    As for Rigell, Brian is right. Yes, donations do matter, and Rigell has given tons to Republicans over the years. He would also be far from the only Republican who supported Mark Warner over the non-existent Gilmore campaign.
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    I interviewed with Rigell last summer, and he’s a solid conservative and a great guy. He’s also a great fundraiser and campaigner, which is why so many people, including the Governor, are excited about his campaign. I think you should look a little more into the race before making hasty judgments.

  • Brian- KC picking 3 primaries out of a bunch is different than saying saying Cuccinelli has been very active in getting involved in intra-party contests” (he hasnt endorsed anybody in the 8th, nor has he in other races, even the 1st where Wittman is being primaried by a wacko) saying Cuccinelli has been very active in getting involved in intra-party contests”

    LI was trying to say how come Bob and Bill endorses some ppl, when Ken endorses everybody. The nature of LI’s tone and argument has faulty logic.

  • oops…repeated the same thing twice..4got to proofread.

  • He didn’t endorse in the 11th until after Pat Herritys desperate attack on Keith regurgitated from Connolly oppo research. I’m hearing that it was the first tax lien mailer that pushed Ken off the fence.

  • Also, Rigell is a great guy and your off your rocker to attack him. As for the alleged rift between McDonnell-Bolling and Cuccinelli, I see none and it’s not something you can report into existence.

  • Chris says:

    People want to create a McDonnell-Bolling rift with Cuccinelli because a) they think Ken will challenge Bolling, and b) they don’t believe Republicans should elect people like Ken. That’s that.

    As for Rigell, for whatever reason the $1,000 donation to Obama doesn’t bother me as much as I thought it might. I remember the whole Operation Chaos movement Rush started to try and prop Obama up against Hilary (which kind of backfired, huh?).

    What might be helping Rigell is he’s not a johnny-come-lately to the district or the community. He’s been active in business and politics for years and seems to have built up a pool of trust in his community. I think that is protected him.

    P.S. – LI, your are waaaaaay late on this. People were talking about Rigell’s donation to Obama back when he announced.

  • Aaron says:

    Bolling has been super active in party affairs. He even endorsed unit chairs in the 5th and the 5th chairman (all who lost). I would say that he has been the most active…

  • Rabble Rouser says:

    LI’s original question was “Is McDonnell poorly served by his staff?” Notwithstanding the Rigell issue (it is overblown, but not good he gave to dems), I think the faux pas with the Sons of Confederate Veterans and the idea of having felons get back their voting rights shows McDonnell is not being served well by his staff. I don’t think he has a single person in his inner circle with any gray hair now that Bill Mims is on the Supreme Court. I reckon most of them are Generation Xers and Y’ers.

  • Brian S says:

    This Gen-Xer has plenty of gray hair to go around.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    I really just wanted to have some party puritans come on and say that giving $1,000 to Barack Obama and Mark Warner isn’t so bad! This now negates any future criticism of any future candidate who may have given to Dems in the past. If you remember the witch hunt of the 10th District Convention in 2007 (or was it 2006?) people were called out to be excluded because of past donations to Dems or Independents. I guess if Scott Rigell filed to vote as a delegate in any GOP convention he would be similarly called out and excluded? Why is it OK for him to do this but no one else?

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    And as far as McD’s staff serving him well, I think its pretty obvious they have not. Remember the Confederate History blow up? That one cost him Sheila Johnson and was easily avoidable. He needs help.
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    And absolutely there is jockeying going on between Bolling and Cuccinelli. Bolling is toast.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    LI, You have too much time on your hands. Are you hatching plots to catch political “enemies” in double speak or just trying to be a pot stirrer? Who else have you “caught”, or who else can you cite that has a similar situation?
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    If you think a 1000$ donation to Obama – for whatever reason – should negate a man’s entire history and work within the local party and on behalf of candidates – you need a day off to rest.
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    Holy crap, get real.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    I love it! No plots here, LL, just my observations based on current intel and past behavior of those involved. LL, this little donation makes him a heretic in a large portion of the GOP’s base in Loudoun County. Just as $50 donations to Scott York got others on hit lists, this should be no different.
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    As far as Cooch and Bolling and 2013, Bwana did a great piece on this last week:
    http://renaissanceruminations.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/cucci-rumi-nations/

  • Ashburn Watcher says:

    Lady- Lets say this slowy.. Scott Rigell GAVE $1,000 to BARACK OBAMA last year and is NOW running for UNITED STATES CONGRESS as a REPUBLICAN… Youre really OK with that?? Holy crap is right.

  • Speaking of plots, but completely off topic, I thought you might be interested in this post on Citizen Tom:

    Lloyd is “Too Conservative” material. He’d fit right in. Is that you, Loudoun Insider?

    Here’s the link. http://citizentom.com/2010/05/11/a-primer-for-conservatives/#comments

  • Ashburn Watcher says:

    Aside from Rigell, I think what LI is trying to say is this:
    Cooch is working the grassroots like a champion. Within the Party structure he is working at the unit level, the State Central Committee level, the Congressional District level, on and on. He is carefully choosing his candidates, publically endorsing them and providing the resources to win. And he IS winning. He is being politically smart and clearly implementing a plan. And unless your a complete dumb-ass you know that its laying the ground work for winning a future nominating contest. Brilliant!
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    Bob and Bill on the other hand are ignoring the intra-Party-contests. They want to “stay neutral” – thats code for not wanting to piss-off the base too bad, fine – but they oddly DO choose to enter the fray of this Congressional Primary (despite the political liability is poses, just silly).
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    In contrast to what Cooch is doing, the actions of Bob and Bill are a political boondoggle. Their base (of convention-goer-types) is drying-up out here in the trenches because Cooch is building a huge loyalty base and the Bob and Bill people are being seriously marginalized. Im not saying that these people dont like Bill or Bob, but I AM saying when it comes down to some convention for Governor (Cooch-v-Bolling) or some convention for US Senate (McDonnell-v-Cooch or Marshall) they are Cooch loyalists all-the-way and Bob or Bill are Toast. So back to LI’s point: They are either not politically in touch with whats going on in the field right now OR they are getting really bad advice from staff.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    First I read about Keyser Soze on NVTH and now hit lists in Loudoun County? There is no Keyser Soze!

  • Brian S says:

    Ashburn Watcher, I really have no idea where you’re getting your information. The comments here alone demonstrate that all three candidates are involved at the local level in very specific ways. And if it’s silly that McDonnell and Bolling got involved in this race, is it equally silly that Cuccinelli got involved in the 11th District Primary?
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    Neither Bolling nor McDonnell got to where they are by being stupid. And I also think treating the AG like he’s the second coming of Karl Rove is a bit of a stretch too.
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    As to your previous point, I am perfectly fine with Rigell giving $1k to Obama in the primary. If he had never given a dime to Republicans and that was his only contribution, I would agree there’s something hinky there. But he’s given over a quarter of a million dollars to Republicans, including the AG. That one contribution is miniscule comparatively, and it didn’t go to hurting a single Republican because it could only be spent on the Democratic primary.

  • G. Stone says:

    If he gave one dime to Obama that means he is dumber as owl shit.

  • Brian S says:

    It’s his money. If he wants to spend it to defeat Hillary Clinton, I don’t have a problem with that.

  • RichmondDem says:

    Please oh Please oh PLEAAAAAAAASSSSEEEE nominate The Cooch in 2013. Why, then we will have the first Governor of Virgnia that is from the same party as the President since 1969! I’m a big fan of breaking silly political “curses”. Since Cooch will lose big, this will break it.
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    Go Cooch!

  • rabble rouser says:

    Does LI (or, anyone here for that matter) have a problem with Clint Goode, who was recently on the LCRC Executive Committee, giving $150 to Stevens Miller’s 2007 campaign? Please comment.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    RR, who cares – Rigell and his endorsees have set the bar. Any Republican can give money to a Dem and still be a party member in good standing. Witch hunts are over for good!

  • BlackOut says:

    Goode is a good man rr. He has the benefit of the doubt with me. Maybe he gave the money to defeat the scoundrel Snow. That’s was a move most approved of based on the resounding thumping Snow got at the polls.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    RR- There were several LCRC former and current members that campaigned for Stevens Miller.
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    Why is this story STILL being bandied about? As an actor might say “What’s the motivation???”

  • Loudoun Outsider says:

    Ashburn Watcher,

    You are correct in that Cooch is laying the groundwork for a future campaign by getting involved in intra-party contests. Problem is all his grassroots work could be for nothing if he does not prevail in his healthcare lawsuit or does not find actual misconduct in his UVA document request. In other words, he may lock it up with the party (great) but screw it up with the public.

  • G. Stone says:

    Giving money to Miller is akin to giving money to Obama. One a suave leftist the other a bubbling leftists, both leftists none the less. I suspect those providing money to these two can claim they were duped, however that excuse rings hollow. You can’t be that clueless.

  • I’m confused. Couldn’t they be completely clueless AND poorly staffed?
    The governor, from recent speeches I’ve heard, is in fact poorly staffed. His staff looked good in the campaign but, except for the thesis incident, they weren’t really tested. Not passing the governing test yet.

  • Ashburn Watcher says:

    Clint Good’s wife gave the money RR, if you want to be technical about it. Plus, Clint isnt trying to “be anyone” the standard is different, he isnt running for anything. If Clint wants to be on the LCRC and work to get Republicans elected he is welcome to in my book…. a heck of a lot more welcome than Jack Ryan.
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    Republicans who want to run as Republican candidates are subject to a higher level of scrutiny, as they should be. Filing as an Independent after a convention, like Dale Myers, Jack Ryan and even Ken Reid (who filed as an Independent against Jim Clem last cycle), etc. are the ones who need purged.

  • Ashburn Watcher says:

    “I really have no idea where you’re getting your information” BRIAN S. Im in the field, my information is anecdoctable of the first degreee, in other words I havent seen Bob/Bill involved in anything party related or local, please provide examples.

  • Brian S says:

    Ashburn, I met the Governor at a fundraiser just last week for State Senate Candidate Jay O’Brien. Bill Bolling has endorsed candidates in local unit chair races in Campbell and Bedford Counties: http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state_regional/govtpolitics/article/bolling_endorses_gop_leaders_in_campbell_bedford/91340/
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    They’re both involved in various places at the local level, just like the AG.

  • Ashburn Watcher says:

    Well the unfortunate truth is that Cooch OWNS the units, the Congressional Districts and the SCC…. not Bob or Bill. He owns more of the 10th District than Frank Wolf does for sure, especially now. AND like it or not, he deserves to own them, he’s worked his ass off for it.

  • DJ Spiker says:

    A Dub,

    If you’re ‘in the field’ then you’ve come in contact with plenty Cucci staffers who have made clear Cucci doesn’t have gubernatorial aspirations in 2013. Things can always change of course but right now Cuccinelli is on pace to be an 8 year AG, much to Mark Obenshain’s chagrin.

  • Dorothy says:

    Cuccinelli must be in a contest to see if he can appear on TV more than Obama.
    It is obvious that he wants to outshine our governor.
    If he plans to spend 8 years as AG, maybe he will have time to learn his job!!

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  • Glenda says:

    Dorothy,
    I agree with you. I have never seen an AG spend so much time either on TV or fighting intra party battles. Some one ought to advise him that he needs to practice on becoming a statesman. I thought he was a fiscal conservative who hated the waste of tax dollars. Virginians are not paying a hefty AG’s salary to have him campaign around the state in involving himself in intra party races, it looks like abuse of our tax dollars. He needs to stay in Richmond and crack open the Virginia Code books.

    Who knows, maybe he thinks he is Obama. Look what happened when people bought into that change.

    Ashburn Watcher
    The Governor and Lt Governor are taking care of the business of the Commonwealth. I am sure they will be engaged in the fall.

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