THIS Should be the Face of the Republican Party

By Lloyd the Idiot

Newt, Sarah and Rush should just step aside, shut up and let Chris Christie take the role of lead Republican cheerleader.  There, I said it.  I’m still here.  I didn’t vaporize.

Whether he runs in 2012 or not, his genuine, non-political persona conveys a refreshing honesty that will appeal to moderates and independents as well as hardcore Republicans that, in turn, can build  and energize the base for whomever gets the nomination.  Watch the Face the Nation interview for yourself and you’ll see he’s the real deal.


Comments

  • BlackOut says:

    And that sure is a LOT of face!

  • LarryG says:

    For once I might agree with you Lloyd! But I want to see him actually perform the way he talks the talk.

    But you are correct. When you listen to this man you realize just how BAD most of the Republicans are these days even though guys like you defend them often!

    Compare Christie to McDonnell… what say you? Is McD a Christie Jr or just another talking head?

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Love that guy!

  • Lloyd the Idiot says:

    Larry,

    McDonnell is great, too, and a good face for the party. Christie is just so “devil may care” that he can and does appeal to folks not generally interested in politics.

  • LarryG says:

    Lloyd – for me – Christie is courageous enough to take on the tough issues but smart enough not to do what the guy in Wisconsin is doing which is basically poisoning any chance to enlist those affected in making changes that must be done.

    What Walker is doing is destructive and bridge burning… and ultimately his agenda for change is going to run into more and more folks who are opposed to his slash and burn tactics.

    Cristie is smarter than that (I hope).

  • edmundburkenator says:

    The Right will reject him.

    He’s ok with “gun control”, appoints Muslims to positions of power, and sees a role for government in periods of economic crises.

    He’s hot in “conservative” circles right now because he’s good at winning a yelling match.

  • Frylock says:

    We’ll see how Christie does at the collective bargaining table when the union contract expires this year. He said he believes in the process, as long as it is fair and reasonable. Good luck, Governor!

  • Why is it that the first thing anybody says about Christie when they want to criticize him is he’s fat?

    Guess what – so is most of the country. Get over it.

  • G.Stone says:

    “And that sure is a LOT of face!”

    The guy who is always lecturing everyone about substance and civility.
    You have become the blog version of a fart joke.

  • G.Stone says:

    “He’s ok with “gun control…”

    You are correct, this will be a problem.It is a non starter, he either finds the road to Damuscus or he is just another good guy fron Jersey.

    “appoints Muslims to positions of power”

    No one gives a rats ass about this.

    I give him points for taking on the tough economic issues. he knows his state is heading towards an economic seizure if something is not done. He deserves credit for a political grownup when it comes to economics. Now if only he could help out President Obama

  • As much as I like Christie, I could never support a gun grabber for president.

  • Loudoun Moderate says:

    I really like this guy. He is a straight shooter (no pun intended) and isn’t going to take anyone’s crap. I hope he runs. A candidate like Gov. Christie has a real chance at taking back the White House. Nut jobs, get out of the way and let a real leader take the lead. That’s assuming that he wants to.

    BTW: It’s not about guns, abortion, or other far right causes. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMY. As Bill C. said all those years ago: “It’s the economy, Stupid). Jobs…jobs…jobs.

  • Dan says:

    Lloyd, not to say anything negative about Christie, but I think the buzz around him says more about the dearth of credible leadership in the Republican Party than it does anything about Christie himself. There seems to be a rush toward the new guy, the next pretty face, who is going to be the salvation. That is more an indicator of a very weak Republican field than anything else.

    Look at the names you mentioned who should step aside in favor of Christie.
    Newt, Sarah and Rush??? If that trio is the face of your party and its intellectual center you know you are not in a good place.

    It is certainly plausible that in time Christie could become a serious contender on the national level. But I think the wishful rush to have that happen instantly is precipitated by the natural desire to have someone, anyone, who can fill the current leadership vacuum.

  • LM, there is nothing far right about defending our Constitutional rights.

  • Dan says:

    Loudoun Moderate, apparently no one bothered to tell the Republican leadership in Congress that it was all about the economy and jobs. They have been concentrating on far right causes to the exclusion of the economy.

    Unfortunately for Christie if he decides to run he will have to navigate the bizarro world of Republican primary voters. You know the one I mean. The one where a candidate like Christie, who has no antagonism for the 2nd Amendment, will be labeled as a “gun grabber” (to use RWN’s silly phrase) if he expresses any hesitation to endorse truly unspooled ideas like guns in bars or arming elementary school kids to make them safer. And if Stone doesn’t think that appointing Muslims to positions of responsibility in state government will be a problem for Christie in Republican primaries he is either kidding himself or hasn’t been paying attention to the anti-Muslim hysteria that has been being stirred up for quite a while now.

    A candidate who doesn’t espouse the nutty positions of the far right would obviously be a stronger national candidate. And Christie doesn’t seem to be nut job at all. But can such a candidate win the nomination. That is the key question.

  • G.Stone says:

    “It’s not about guns, abortion, or other far right causes. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMY. As Bill C. said all those years ago: “It’s the economy, Stupid). Jobs…jobs…jobs.”

    No kidding ! This Headline is about two years old. Helllo, Elections in Va, NJ, Major shake up in congress. Pretty obvious.

  • G.Stone says:

    ….”Nut jobs, get out of the way “……

    Such tolerence. Such intellectual honesty. Such elitist crap.

    Get a clue, learn how to build coalitions and win.

  • Dan says:

    Stone, you say it is obvious, but the electoral beneficiaries haven’t seemed to have gotten the message that the election was about the economy. Judging by the priority they have given to legislation involving culture war issues they seem to have largely missed the point. It’s as if they think abortion was the issue on which the election turned.

    I don’t think this is being missed by the independent swing voters who gave them their success in the last election. Those voters swinging the other way combined with the larger turnout in a presidential election year may create a less than ideal environment for Republicans in 2012.

    For folks who did so much yapping about “listening to the voters” they are demonstrating a staggering amount of hearing impairment.

  • Matt Letourneau says:

    I love Christie too, but I actually think there is an interesting contrast right now between Christie and McDonnell. My fear is that by “going national” so soon–with or without aspirations–Christie has sufficiently poisoned the water for future progress in New Jersey. His road is tougher thanks to the legislature he’s dealing with there vs. Virginia.

    On the other hand, McDonnell has rather quietly had a number of big accomplishments–most recently getting the Holy Grail passed, a transportation package–but has been less bombastic. I don’t think there is a competition between the two–just a contrast in styles, and I wonder if ultimately McDonnell’s is more successful.

  • Matt Letourneau says:

    And Dan,
    I think you might be missing the point a little bit too–the “culture wars” you are referring to have been in the context of the budget on the federal level. The question is simple–should tax dollars be spent on Planned Parenthood or not? That’s an economic question as well as a social and moral one.

    You CAN think and chew gum at the same time. Regulating abortion clinics–which by the way is a completely common sense measure–did not prevent the Virginia legislature from passing the transportation bill. The emphasis you refer to is actually on the part of the left–bloggers like our friend NLS who has been yapping about this issue non-stop for the past week because he understands that his side is slowly but surely losing the war to be able to kill a preborn human being however and whenever someone wants to.

  • Dan says:

    Matt, I think you have a point about McDonnell’s style being more effective than Christie’s. But then the loud mouth show boats are rarely as effective as the quiet ones who focus on getting things done rather than garnering attention and headlines. I’d give McDonnell high marks thus far.

    On the social issues in Congress I wasn’t thinking so much of the Planned Parenthood funding. Although we both know cutting Planned Parenthood’s funding was a sop to the right wingers and has little impact on the budget deficit. Sort of like railing against foreign aid appeals to the morons who persist in believing that it is a huge part of the budget rather than the less than one percent it actually represents.

    I was thinking of HR3 (very low number showing its priority with your boys) that attempted to redefine rape in order to deny money to pay for abortions to many rape victims. Since with rare exceptions (like rape) federally funding of abortion has been blocked for more than thirty years it is hard to understand the way this horrendous bill would have addressed federal funding of abortion (which as I said is not now and has not been allowed for decades)or had any impact on the deficit.

    Clearly the legislation had only one purpose. It was an attempt to appeal to the most extreme elements of the anti-abortion movement who want to use the power of big government to force every woman to carry every pregnancy to term regardless of the circumstances of conception. Even those that are the result of rape or incest. I guess the big government Republicanism of the past decade is still alive and well.

    I would welcome serious proposals from national Republicans regarding the deficit. They are supposed to be the conservative political party in this country and they campaigned on this issue. But if you are saying that cutting money from Planned Parenthood is a real attempt at fiscal responsibility it is very hard to take you or the Republicans seriously. That’s kinda like having a household budget with a thousand dollars a month more in bills than income and saying that I am going to forego one latte at Starbucks per week and use a cheaper grade of paper towels and that proves I am going to be really tough about my budget problem.

    You won the danged election. Get serious. Do something.

    You may give your guys a free pass but the average American voter who is not a Republican partisan is not likely to grade on such an easy scale. They don’t view Planned Parenthood or rape victims as the boogeyman or convenient whipping boys as the far right does. And they don’t see any huge connection (since it’s nonexistent) between them and the budget deficit. They want serious action. And the Republicans in Congress haven’t shown them much yet.

  • I agree that McDonnell and Christie have different styles, both of which work. Almost as if chariacatures of their respective states, Christie is direct and blunt while McDonnell works in more of the Southern charm. I like both a great deal, and both should be getting the R airtime. However, on a national scale, McDonnell may be more of a target for the left given his (somewhat toned down) positions on the issues that feed the far right.

    As to concerns about either going national too soon, it sure didn’t hurt Obama in the long run.

  • LarryG says:

    Different styles – yes but I don’t get even a hint of a whiff that Christie is a right wing social ideologue.

    He is ALL business and he’s focused on govt and not social issues.

    He’ll appeal to the middle and even to some on the left and that’s what Republicans need to win.

    They cannot win with their right wing social conservative base alone.

  • Lloyd the Idiot says:

    Larry, WTF?! We agree again.

  • Loudoun Moderate says:

    RightonGallows: “there is nothing far right about defending our Constitutional rights.”

    What about a woman’s Constitutional right to obtain an abortion? I am absolutely not pro-abortion but neither do I want to see women returning to back-alley abortionists, dying from botched procedures performed by unqualified people under unsterile conditions. Desperate women will obtain abortions one way or another and denying funding to Planned Parenthood won’t change that reality.

    I hope that Republican candidates will focus on the economy and jobs. There are a lot of hurting families out there and cutting $$$ to Planned Parenthood is not going to put food on their tables.

  • AFF says:

    LM,

    The PP cuts seem even more atrocious when one finds out that Federal funding for the highly discredited just say no/keep your knickers up abstinence training has remained intact. Sure looks like a wedge social issue to me being justified as a “budget” concern. Unfortunately I can’t say I’m surprised

    No matter how a person feels about abortion it’s hard to fault PParenthood considering all the health care they provide to our most needy at minimal cost to the community.

  • Loudoun Moderate says:

    Right on, AFF. PP provides a lot of health care and counseling to women who otherwise would be unable to obtain health care. PP is not just about abortions. Abstinence seldom works with young people whose hormones are raging.

    Gallows: I guess we could really go back into the Dark Ages and bring back the chastity belt. We could make them right here in the US and create manufacturing jobs. Maybe Uncle will provided some stimulus money to get started….

  • squiddy says:

    “Highly discredited” abstinence programs? By who? Teen pregnancy rates are down – some want to “credit” the recession, some want to credit abstinence programs, some want to credit improved birth control – pretty much depends on where you sit, politically.

    Constitutional right to get an abortion? Wow, I must’ve missed that amendment.

    Speaking of which, I think you guys missed the memo – The term now isn’t “pro-choice” or “pro-abortion”, it’s “Protecting Reproductive Rights.” “Reproductive Rights” – please make a note of it.

    Glad to see “Progressives” read, and understand, their Orwell.

    Anyway, I agree that “abortion” will be a wedge issue – it’s a self-inflicted wound to the Republican Party. I understand the opposition to abortion by many, and I respect it — but it doesn’t mean I agree with the more extreme positions, or that the “pro-life” movement owns the Republican Party. Nominate a frothing-at-the-mouth ideologue, and watch me sit it out.

  • RWN says:

    AFF – If you think PP offers a minimal cost to the community after all the hundereds of millions of dollars of taxpayers dollars they receive, then I got some oil in the Gulf of Mexico I’d like to sell you. PP should be defunded and held to account for their blatant disregard for the rule of law.

  • Eric the 1/2 Troll says:

    ‘“He’s ok with “gun control…”

    You are correct, this will be a problem.It is a non starter, he either finds the road to Damuscus or he is just another good guy fron Jersey.

    “appoints Muslims to positions of power”

    No one gives a rats ass about this.’

    Not if he finds that road to Damuscus (sic), eh GStone? Armed civilians can handle any ole Muslims, right?

  • LarryG says:

    The Republican party is in the last stages of breaking into two groups – the social conservatives an the fiscal conservatives.

    Governance requires compromise. Groups that want to implement their agenda without compromise (RULE rather than govern) are headed for political oblivion.

    You cannot win with only 25% of the electorate and the current strategy to demagogue and spook folks in the middle may work sometimes in some places but is not sustainable as a national strategy.

    As Mr. Lincoln said.. you can fool…..some… but not for long…

    This is why Christie as a Republican has a wider appeal than the candidates than cater to the right wing base.

  • Muammar Qadaffi says:

    I strongly endorse Don Richardson for Prince William County School Board. He will neuter your cat.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yeCP81-n3s

  • AFF says:

    Did I stutter RWN?

    363 million in 2010 = minimal= a ____ joke in the context of the Federal Budget

    Meanwhile the boys who spewed your oil all over the gulf of Mexico got billions in subsidies. Call me soft hearted but I’d rather help out the poor college student with a yeast infection.

  • RichmondDem says:

    Chris Christie is Giuliani the Sequel as far as national aspirations go.

  • LloydTheIdiot says:

    AFF, I edited you comment for the expletive. For Pete’s sake, this isnt NLS.

    Muammar, I deleted yours altogether.

  • Rtwng Extrmst says:

    I’d take Christie over Obama (even if he IS a Jets fan), but we have many more palatable conservative candidates who can fare just as well on the issues Christie is good on and still carry the day with conservatives. Christie is a non-starter at the top of the ticket. Perhaps as a VP.

  • LloydTheIdiot says:

    RWE, name one who’s even close.

  • NoVA Scout says:

    The Sunday New York Times magazine had a good article about Christie and the financial issues he’s facing. There was an interesting bar graph on the unfunded obligations of each of the 50 states with regard to public employee pension funds (check my work on describing that – I don’t have it in front of me at the moment). New Jersey’s was almost off the page (Virginia and, for that matter, Wisconsin were very modest). This is what Christie is up against. The writer of the article did a superb job of explaining how these obligations accrete over time as localities and state governments fail to negotiate in real time with public employee unions. It confirmed my view of the Wisconsin situation that the problem is not that public employees can collectively bargain, but that local and state governments are lousy bargainers.

  • NoVA Scout says:

    PS – the guy has said fairly flatly that he is not interested in running for President. With this particular person, it might be that we can believe him.

  • LarryG says:

    I’m not sure he is ready for prime time yet but he looks very promising and the only guy that comes close IMHO is Romney. The others have mucho baggage and come across as ideologues and they’ll do fine with the right wing base but they’ll hand over the 2nd term to Obama.

    OMG… WTF am I saying here?

    Yes.. by all means push Newt and that Mississippi gov… or Pallin…

    !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • LarryG says:

    Looks like you boys might be in trouble:

    ” Poll finds Obama would carry Virginia”

    http://www2.newsadvance.com/news/2011/mar/02/poll-finds-obama-would-carry-virginia-ar-877967/

    whoa!

    ” The poll by Public Policy Polling of North Carolina shows Obama leading potential Republican presidential opponents by 5 to 19 percentage points.

    The poll also shows that 48 percent of Virginians like the job he is doing while 45 percent do not.

    Obama would defeat Mitt Romney by 5 percentage points and other potential contenders, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin by a larger amount.Pollster Tom Jensen concluded that the numbers show that Obama’s advantage in Virginia “is more about them than it is about him.”

    wonder how Christie “polls” against Prez Teleprompter, eh?

    :-)

  • LarryG says:

    Looks like ya’ll might need to turn up the heat here.. You know.. accuse him of being a socialist who hates America and grew up in Kenya and smoke cigarettes and is a secret Muslim.

    oops.. forgot.. that’s already been done!

    :-)

    next?

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