Redistricting Horror Gets Worse For Loudoun County

By Loudoun Insider

As if the Board of Supervisors’ hack job of redistricting the county wasn’t bad enough, now we get our first look at the proposed House of Delegates and Senate district lines.  Here’s one source for the maps, other sites are having problems due to demand.  I don’t have time to delve into these in deatil, but holy moly are they a mess. 

One Senate district will go from Arlington all the way to Sugarland Run in Loudoun County, and the Leesburg House district will stretch westward to Stephens City!  Absolutely unacceptable.  These horrid plans should be DOA.  Let the college students who won the recent contest take this over – they will certainly do a better job than the self interested partisan hacks from both parties.

CANDIDATE/INCUMBENT UPDATE:  Joe May and Tag Greason keep districts that are very similar to what they have now.  Tom Rust loses Oak Grove precinct where Dems rule and Stevens Miller lives now.  Jill Vogel keeps western Loudoun, then her district goes all spider-webby from there.  Mark Herring’s district goes from Leesburg across the north of Route 7, then down to Dulles, and includes Patricia Phillips and Stevens Miller.  Dick Black gets put into a northern band district that goes from Lowes Island all the way to Arlington – not friendly at all to his brand of politics.

NEWS UPDATE:  Leesburg Today and LTM stories are up with more details.


  • Wolverine says:

    One of those proposed House district lines cuts our covenanted HOA community right down the middle. Ridiculous.

  • Loudoun Lady says:

    Lowes Island districted in with Arlington?

  • Rizzo says:

    ridiculous…what are the next steps in the process??

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    Looks like I get to keep my delegate, which suits me fine.

  • NoVA Scout says:

    Ideally, Barbara, re-districting ought to be about good governance and good electoral processes, not whether someone gets to keep a delegate they like. The really good delegates et al will get elected without having some Rube Goldberg contrivance created for their benefit or the benefit of one of their constituents.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    No kidding, really?

    My district doesn’t look too odd, being fairly compact and contiguous.

    Given that Loudoun was cut into five pie slices in 2000, I was afraid that in this year’s slice-up, that we would be one of the bizarrely-configured ones, and I’m thankful that we’re not.

    In addition, since in 2000 my precinct was the ONLY Loudoun precinct attached to a Fairfax-centered district, I was afraid we’d be merely treated as a moveable bloc again. Thankfully, we were not.

    It might be better to direct that lecture to those who actually have some control over the process. I don’t, I know I don’t, and I am thankful that the proposed results seem to offer little disruption in my representation because I have BEEN thankful, and remain so, to have a representative who understands exactly what you’re preaching, and has been practicing it since he applied for and secured the job as our representative here.

    Have a nice day.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    My senate district is another story, which makes me all the happier to keep my delegate.

  • Frylock says:

    It looks like the proposed 33rd Senate District includes Stevens Millers’ current residence in Oak Grove.

  • RWN says:

    This map seems to be the Democrats proposed version; are there any alternatives?

  • Riley says:

    Yes, Watkins has an alternative version. I’ve got screen caps of it here:

    The Dem Senate map will either get torpedoed by the House & Gov. or by the courts.

  • The anti-Dick Black folks should be happy – it looks like Dick Black and Caren Merrick are going to be in the same district.

  • Loudounite says:

    RWN – and the Dems are complaining it is a Republican plan…for the very same reasons that the LCDC drafted their plan….wait…do Arlington Dems operate differently than LCDC??? I am SO confused.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Tag Greason’s district is the only one that makes any sense in the HOD plan. Loudoun really gets diluted by these plans – it’s disgusting.

    Herring is in with Phillips, Dick Black is in the district running into Arlington. Stevens Miller is in with Herring. The Senate district taking in parts of Broadlands may be the targeted move area for these folks, but can they meet residency requirements?

  • Marsden already proved that we don’t care about residency requirements 😛

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Great point, Willie! Too bad nothing was ever done about that, so there is plenty of precedent to ignore it here as well. Remember that Dick Black’s campaign address is a UPS Store mailbox in Brambeleton. I suspect a move is in order – Black will not win a thing in a district including Arlington.

  • Chris says:

    So does this mean that Stevens Miller did not get a state senate district created for him unless he moves into the 31st?

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Exactly. It doesn’t look like Saslaw was too thrilled about Miller possibly being in the Senate!

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    Unless his Broadlands house in in that remarkable new 22.

  • Justin Time says:

    It was reported much earlier that Dick Black was prepared to move and the new district created, 22, is right in his flight path.

  • NotJohnSMosby says:

    Miller would be in the 22nd, at his old house I believe.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Bummer – Republican Delegate Clay Athey from Fauquier County will not be running for re-election. He’s a good guy and good delegate and will be missed.

  • Frylock says:

    What a joke that 31st northern band district is stretching from Loudoun all the way down to the 14th St bridge. The Dems must really be worried about Dick Black.

    The Peoples Republic of Arlington only has enough population to support about one district, but the Dems are trying to divvy up that great liberal bastion to where those votes are needed in moderate districts by extending three districts into that county.

    This is a pathetic plan.

  • edmundburkenator says:

    Psst. Frylock. VCU!

  • BlackOut says:

    Dick Black doesn’t scare anyone. Regardless of how hard he tries. Now “pathetic” that does come to mind.

  • NotJohnSMosby says:

    Dick Black will just run in the 22nd or who knows where really. If he can run in the 1st CD primary a few years ago, when he lived 50 miles from that district, he can easily run in one of the new Loudoun districts.

  • Black/Delgaudio fan says:

    Dick Black will be our next Senator. He will move his house whereever necessary to fight the fight for the common man of Virginia. For pro life, against gay marriage, against illegals and hoity-toity PEC types like LIar!

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    Given the size and configuration of the 22nd, if Black moves to run, and Miller moves BACK to run, I’m wondering what primary prospects both could face.

    There are some very differing areas together there, and simply because these two have declared doesn’t mean it’s empty ground waiting for somebody to come in and fight over it, regardless of how attractive each one is to their body of support.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Both are from the far northern parts of the new 22nd District. I’m sure there will be others interested.

  • Frylock says:

    Why shouldn’t Dick Black move to another district? If it was good enough for Dave Marsden, who was able to edge out a very fine candidate in Steve Hunt for Ken Cuccinelli’s former seat, when it’s good enough for Dick Black. And I hope Miller moves back to his Broadlands house to get trounced once again.

    Ed – Go Rams!

  • Eric the 1/2 Troll says:

    “He will move his house whereever necessary…”

    Now THERE’s a campaign slogan if I’ve ever read one.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    I don’t know how Loudoun-centric we can assume the race to be, as both would basically cancel each other out on some easy core messaging.

    Carpetbagger can fly back and forth, and no doubt will, even though Miller would be moving back to the property he owns. It would not be the first office-related move for either.

    Social issues, even though that has not been Black’s message in this campaign, would basically cancel as well–Black is firmly socially conservative, and will be painted as extreme whether he highlights social issues or not. Miller has all the soundbites including Jon Stewart on his social issues, and already has the pieces in place to make (gay) civil rights a centerpiece of any campaign, particularly with the civil rights naming of a portion of his former district, by a candidate who is also on record that he will guarantee “full marriage equality” as a member of the BoS–how I don’t know, but he said it.

    Some people will surely vote plain R or D, some will vote their single issues.

    I think the vast majority of people are on the lookout for a message with some teeth in it that is in keeping with the rising tide of what created TEA, and something to back up that message that compels a vote.

    Loudoun isn’t the only game in that district, no matter how very special unique and different WE “know” we are.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    PWC people are talking about Bob FitzSimmonds running for this new seat, and I would think that is likely since he’s been running constantly trying to get elected to no avail. He’s basically PWC’s version of Dick Black, although at least Dick Black was able to get elected at some point. That would be an interesting battle to see who could be the most right wing.

  • Lady M says:

    Doesn’t Mick Staton both own and rent houses in various spots as well?

  • Mom says:

    Let’s look at the common thread here, Staton – Recent Loser, Black – Multiple Recent Losses, Fitzsimmonds – Lifetime Loser. If the 22nd is adopted as is, it may well develop as one of the strongest GOP strongholds in the Commonwealth. The problem is that if these three were the only three running, they would still lose the race.

  • Loudoun Insider says:

    Mom, no way Mick Staton would run against his father-in-law Dick Black. But a FitzSimmonds-Black contest would be fun to watch as they race to prove who is more far-right and anti-gay.

  • David says:

    Yes please. I will make popcorn for everyone.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    Make lots, David. There will be plenty of people sitting back to watch the festivities, who may or may not go vote about it when the dust settles.

    In other news, anybody see this:

    We have a “Green Czar” now.

    Yep, we grew a lot, didn’t we? And a whole hell of a lot of it at Harrison Street.

  • RWN says:

    Barbara – My bet is this job and many others won’t be around when the new GOP majority get’s elected in November.

  • Barbara Munsey says:

    We can hope, but now that our Comprehensive Plan has been amended (without benefit of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment) by adding our energy policy (disguised as a grant request), things have a way of perking along.

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